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patto
Apr 28, 2011, 2:29 AM
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I have often defended many cams such as the C4 0.3 as being really useful cams in the face of such comments such as them being too wide. In general I rarely have issues with cam head width where I climb so consequently I haven't had problems with small C4s and WC Zeros.
However last weekend I ended up on a hard run out slab climb with the ONLY protection for 7m being two small horizontal pockets. The purple C4 was just too wide for the pocket and the grey too small. I needed tricams or something narrow. I had to retreat. 
After a quick comparison it turns out that TOTEM cams are actually even narrower than Tricams. It was the last excuse I needed to buy them so I placed my order! 
Now the waiting game until the parcel arrives.
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mattm
Apr 28, 2011, 3:07 AM
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patto wrote: I have often defended many cams such as the C4 0.3 as being really useful cams in the face of such comments such as them being too wide. In general I rarely have issues with cam head width where I climb so consequently I haven't had problems with small C4s and WC Zeros. However last weekend I ended up on a hard run out slab climb with the ONLY protection for 7m being two small horizontal pockets. The purple C4 was just too wide for the pocket and the grey too small. I needed tricams or something narrow. I had to retreat. After a quick comparison it turns out that TOTEM cams are actually even narrower than Tricams. It was the last excuse I needed to buy them so I placed my order! Now the waiting game until the parcel arrives.
You'll like them and I bet you'll find them an excellent complement to the C4s. I think the Totems will keep being discovered as time goes on.
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enigma
Apr 28, 2011, 3:39 AM
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mattm wrote: patto wrote: I have often defended many cams such as the C4 0.3 as being really useful cams in the face of such comments such as them being too wide. In general I rarely have issues with cam head width where I climb so consequently I haven't had problems with small C4s and WC Zeros. However last weekend I ended up on a hard run out slab climb with the ONLY protection for 7m being two small horizontal pockets. The purple C4 was just too wide for the pocket and the grey too small. I needed tricams or something narrow. I had to retreat. After a quick comparison it turns out that TOTEM cams are actually even narrower than Tricams. It was the last excuse I needed to buy them so I placed my order! Now the waiting game until the parcel arrives. You'll like them and I bet you'll find them an excellent complement to the C4s. I think the Totems will keep being discovered as time goes on.
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bearbreeder
Apr 28, 2011, 3:44 AM
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i <3 my tricams ... always have a set in a biner in my loop
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patto
Apr 28, 2011, 4:01 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: i <3 my tricams ... always have a set in a biner in my loop
I was tempted to get some tricams as well but I may just borrow a friends and compare their performance against Totems in such small pockets.
But as I have said cam head width is rarely an issue for the places I climb.
(I think I might get red and gold dragons instead of Totems in the larger sizes, but I'll see how much I like the Totems. All this will likely replace my 2nd set of cams which is older cams of various brands.)
(This post was edited by patto on Apr 28, 2011, 4:05 AM)
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esander4
Apr 28, 2011, 11:29 PM
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patto wrote: bearbreeder wrote: i <3 my tricams ... always have a set in a biner in my loop I was tempted to get some tricams as well but I may just borrow a friends and compare their performance against Totems in such small pockets. But as I have said cam head width is rarely an issue for the places I climb. (I think I might get red and gold dragons instead of Totems in the larger sizes, but I'll see how much I like the Totems. All this will likely replace my 2nd set of cams which is older cams of various brands.)
I have a full set of totems coming in tomorrow as well. I'm so glad they decided to ship from the US now. I would have bought the totems a long time ago had it not been for the obnoxious wait time.
You may love or hate the dragons. If you're a free climb only person, you'll love them. The extendable sling is actually as useful as DMM says it is. It helps rope drag problems so much. And not having a thumb loop wasn't an issue for me, the termination at the bottom is so huge and ergonomical it made no difference. I have a full set of those because I liked them better than c4s.
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rocknice2
Apr 29, 2011, 12:35 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: i <3 my tricams ... always have a set in a biner in my loop
I think he meant a 3 cam unit not tricams
But tricams do work great in pockets!
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camhead
Apr 29, 2011, 1:56 AM
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Yeah, I think my width is all right. Most ladies prefer girth over length anyway.
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patto
Apr 29, 2011, 2:46 AM
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rocknice2 wrote: bearbreeder wrote: i <3 my tricams ... always have a set in a biner in my loop I think he meant a 3 cam unit not tricams But tricams do work great in pockets!
Nah I did mean Tricams. According to the specs these are wider!
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