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darkgift06
May 9, 2011, 4:28 PM
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I'm looking at upgrading from jeans, to some more appropriate pants for climbing & my out door life style as I tend to rip the crotch out of every pair of pants I've ever worn.
However there is a catch, I can order Jeans online from Old Navy for $20 a pair, so my wife & myself are having a hard time paying $60-100 for one pair of MEC, North face, or Patagonia starter level outdoor pants. I'm wondering if I should buy 5 pairs of Jeans & forget about the crazy cost of one pair of outdoor pants? or do I buy 2 pairs of inseam gusset, knee darted, quick drying pants & just wear them everywhere all the time.. work, dinners, hiking, climbing?
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smallclimber
May 9, 2011, 4:46 PM
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Do you have Target or K-Mart in Canada? How about just getting a chear pair of cotton/synthetic blend pants, probably about $20. They will be easier to move in than jeans and will dry faster. Not as hard wearing as a brand name, but cheaper.
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qwert
May 9, 2011, 4:55 PM
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What do you want to do with your pants?
As long as you are just sport climbing, jeans are perfectly OK, as long as they fit you well. I "switched back" from all kinds of "outdoor pants" to jeans, since - for sport climbing - they do not really provide anithing that makes them better than other pants.
Never had problems with the crotch, but then i dont really buy cheap jeans, so maybe its a quality thing in general?
However if you want to get into stuff like alpine climbing, or anything where you have a really long approach, the fancy outdoor pants are really usefull. They are - most of the time - significantly lighter than jeans - nice if you need to carry them in your pack (think multi day trips - and they mostly are more water resistand and much faster drying than jeans.
However most stuff is indeed expensive. Personally i like Fjällräven. Not exactly climbing pants, but they work quite good. Between 100 and 150€, but they generally last me for around 10 years, so i guess thats ok.
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jakedatc
May 9, 2011, 5:01 PM
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Carhart double knee. comfy and tough.
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michael1245
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I bought a pair of Izod "carpenter" pants for like $20 on clearance and they've held up against outdoor climbing for the past year with no rips. forget an expensive name brand...just find something made from sturdy work-man material. then again, the heavier the material the hotter you'll be. I'm getting ready to put those pants on the shelf until the fall. I bought "lightweight" cargo pants from EMS and REI (store-brand) for a recent Central American rainforest trip...I think they were $40-$50 each. Both held up REALLY well to the rain, mud/dirt, trips and falls, and a good amount of rock climbing...and, they kept me cool as well in the heat.
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sp115
May 9, 2011, 5:22 PM
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Jeans are fine to climb in, but climbing pants generally allow for better freedom of movement and either that matters to your or it doesn't.
I swear by Stonemaster pants (these should solve your torn-out cotch issues).
http://www.stonemastergear.com/...uemart&Itemid=83
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climber49er
May 10, 2011, 2:01 PM
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Any reason not to go super simple and get some basic workout pants? I find them on clearance all the time when the racks get filled up with shorts for summer.
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mattm
May 10, 2011, 2:13 PM
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sp115 wrote: Jeans are fine to climb in, but climbing pants generally allow for better freedom of movement and either that matters to your or it doesn't. I swear by Stonemaster pants (these should solve your torn-out cotch issues). http://www.stonemastergear.com/...uemart&Itemid=83
If you're avoiding "schoeller" pants, the Stonemaster Pants are AWESOME. Makes jeans seem like a bad idea. (Never got climbing in jeans. they don't stretch AT ALL IMO, terrible for movement)
+1 for Stonemaster Pants
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MarcelS
May 10, 2011, 2:36 PM
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For both indoor and outdoor climbing I simply use 3/4 length sports pants, mine are from Asics but most brands make them. They are very light, great freedom of movement. Now I don't do alpine, and I avoid climbing when its too cold, because these 3/4 pants might be a bit chilly for that :-)
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sp115
May 10, 2011, 3:42 PM
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climber49er wrote: Any reason not to go super simple and get some basic workout pants? I find them on clearance all the time when the racks get filled up with shorts for summer.
Truthfully, you can wear anything you want. But how they stretch, fit under a harness, breathe, and dry when wet will all factor in to some degree.
As for workout pants, I suppose they might be fine. But then again, little things like the pocket locations and whether or not they have a fly might be an more of an annoyance than the $15 you save over something more technical.
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saint_john
May 10, 2011, 4:03 PM
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I have a pair of Prana Tangra climbing pants that a super rad. they fit nice and slim and are very stretchy. MSRP is like a $100 but I found mine cheap on eBay.
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singletrackmike
May 10, 2011, 4:25 PM
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Like Saint John said, EBAY! I don't care if pants are used as I'll wash them a couple of times to get rid of cooties. I've gotten Gramicci, North Face & Patagonia pants for about $15 . And that could include shipping as well.
Another good place to look is Sierra Trading Post - their "Bargain Barn".
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saint_john
May 10, 2011, 4:30 PM
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singletrackmike wrote: Like Saint John said, EBAY! I don't care if pants are used as I'll wash them a couple of times to get rid of cooties. I've gotten Gramicci, North Face & Patagonia pants for about $15 . And that could include shipping as well. Another good place to look is Sierra Trading Post - their "Bargain Barn".
I think I paid $35 for my Tangras on ebay, and they were NEW!
I also just got some Prana and Mountain Hardware shorts from Sierra Trading Post for more than half off.
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darkgift06
May 10, 2011, 4:33 PM
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I don't want sweat pants, or work out/track pants, as they will wear out fast in the cracks & as said b4 I want fly & pockets.
Jeans are ok but my main reason for not wanting jeans is the lack of stretch I've blown the crotch out of almost every pair I own.
I guess I'll keep looking at places like Winners some quality cheep stuff.. I might just get 3 pairs of cheep $20 jeans from Old Navy & maybe double sew the crotch's lol, & one pair of good fast drying, gusseted crotch pants from somewhere like MEC
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saint_john
May 10, 2011, 4:42 PM
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darkgift06 wrote: Jeans are ok but my main reason for not wanting jeans is the lack of stretch I've blown the crotch out of almost every pair I own.
That's what she said.
Prana and Patagonia both make stretch jeans.
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darkgift06
May 11, 2011, 5:28 PM
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saint_john wrote: darkgift06 wrote: Jeans are ok but my main reason for not wanting jeans is the lack of stretch I've blown the crotch out of almost every pair I own. That's what she said. Prana and Patagonia both make stretch jeans.
Yea they do but for $60-100.
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welle
May 11, 2011, 5:44 PM
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The old adage "You get what you pay for" is true for climbing pants. I have a pair of Pata Rock guides and a cheap pair of EMS climbing pants. Patagonia pants still look like new, while EMS pants look really worn and old, and I think I've worn Pata pants more often. Plus they're tailored well and are good looking just to wear around the town.
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caughtinside
May 11, 2011, 5:48 PM
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If your baseline is $20 jeans, then I'd suggest just looking around for cheap khakis and cargo pants. You can usually find them at Marshalls for cheap, or goodwill for cheaper. Trad climbing beats up pants, I don't like spending big $$ for something that I'm going to drag up chimneys and thigh lock in wide cracks.
If weather is a factor though you have to have a synthetic pair. A plain pair of nylon pants is generally inexpensive, although I do have a fancy pair of patagonia somethings that have held up well for alpine stuff.
As an aside... anything I have ever bought from old navy disintegrates after like 3 uses.
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donald949
May 11, 2011, 6:39 PM
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caughtinside wrote: If your baseline is $20 jeans, then I'd suggest just looking around for cheap khakis and cargo pants. You can usually find them at Marshalls for cheap, or goodwill for cheaper. Trad climbing beats up pants, I don't like spending big $$ for something that I'm going to drag up chimneys and thigh lock in wide cracks. If weather is a factor though you have to have a synthetic pair. A plain pair of nylon pants is generally inexpensive, although I do have a fancy pair of patagonia somethings that have held up well for alpine stuff. As an aside... anything I have ever bought from old navy disintegrates after like 3 uses.
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divnamite
May 11, 2011, 7:47 PM
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welle wrote: The old adage "You get what you pay for" is true for climbing pants. I have a pair of Pata Rock guides and a cheap pair of EMS climbing pants. Patagonia pants still look like new, while EMS pants look really worn and old, and I think I've worn Pata pants more often. Plus they're tailored well and are good looking just to wear around the town. |
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chatreed
May 13, 2011, 8:33 AM
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wear jeans to climb?not a good idea,I often get rei outdoor pants
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special_blend
May 14, 2011, 1:30 AM
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Wear whatever you want!
Some people will tell you that climbing in Jeans is constrictive and and cotton is shitty for sweating in. A polyblend pant will offer better stretch and be moisture wicking, they are by far superior but a lot of people balk at the price tag (to me spending as much as $180 on good pants is worthwhile) Some companies make comfy rock climbing pants like Prana and Sickle and Knickers which are awesome and usually under $100, stretch material and made with climbing in mind fit wise. Another alternative is a cotton canvas pant like Carrharts, or even Arc'Teryx Spotter Pants.
- If you buy pants with cargo pockets make sure they don't interfere with the leg loops and it's better if the pockets zip closed
- A pant thats tapered past the knee is nice for not getting in the way of your shoes
- Moisture wicking polyblends are more comfortable than heavy cotton
- Make sure the pants sit proper on your waist and won't ride your hips, it's uncomfortable if the pants are below your swammi belt
- Pants with a bit of Lycra are awesome and allow for maximum range of movement
Some nice climbing pants
- Arc'Teryx Spotter Pant
- Arc'Teryx Rampart Pant
- Sickle Crux pant
- Patagonia Rock Guide pant
- The North Face v12 pant
- Prana Stretch Zion pant
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cacalderon
May 14, 2011, 2:29 AM
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prana has awesome climbing pants... search online for deals since prana is not cheap
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mach2
May 14, 2011, 6:55 AM
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+1 for carhartt, double knees are all the better. Otherwise learn to sew, then you can have whatever you want.
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