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healyje
Jun 28, 2011, 8:07 AM
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ilikepargo wrote: First, remember that, in nearly all circumstances, if your climber comes loose, your #1 concern is to slam that rope straight down and hold it.
Really? That is not and never will be where the rope goes when I hold a fall as a belayer. Is that really what they 'teach' these days?
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Diphthong
Jun 28, 2011, 2:57 PM
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ilikepargo wrote: First, remember that, in nearly all circumstances, if your climber comes loose, your #1 concern is to slam that rope straight down and hold it.
How many ankles have you broken?
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ilikepargo
Jun 28, 2011, 3:22 PM
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Many take the rope behind their hip (even more difficult and weak with the palm up). I don't see the point. First, it's a weird enough move and the hip is rounded enough that I do not believe it adds any strength at all to the move. Second, it turns the belay device sideways. Straight down puts sharper, truer angles on the belay device.
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ilikepargo
Jun 28, 2011, 3:33 PM
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Zero. No climber has ever been injured in any significant way when I was belaying, whether TR or Lead. And I've caught plenty of falls.
Would you want to hold the rope in a way that is less secure?
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csproul
Jun 28, 2011, 4:20 PM
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ilikepargo wrote: Zero. No climber has ever been injured in any significant way when I was belaying, whether TR or Lead. And I've caught plenty of falls. Would you want to hold the rope in a way that is less secure?
Although I agree that catching a fall is the primary concern of the belayer, it is not adequate to making a good belay. If you feel that your job ends there (and that is how your post came across) then I would not consider your belay acceptable. A good belay ends locked off, but does not necessarily begin there. I certainly don't want a belayer who will:
In reply to: slam that rope straight down and hold it |
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j_ung
Jun 28, 2011, 5:17 PM
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How funny would it be if angeleyes changed the thread title to "Masturbating preference palm up or palm down?"
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healyje
Jun 28, 2011, 5:29 PM
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j_ung wrote: How funny would it be if angeleyes changed the thread title to "Masturbating preference palm up or palm down?"
It would certainly get straight to the meat of the matter.
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sungam
Jun 28, 2011, 5:33 PM
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j_ung wrote: How funny would it be if angeleyes changed the thread title to "Masturbating preference palm up or palm down?"
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Diphthong
Jun 28, 2011, 5:46 PM
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Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating?
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edge
Jun 28, 2011, 5:47 PM
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Diphthong wrote: Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating?
Beats me.
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areyoumydude
Jun 28, 2011, 6:07 PM
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edge wrote: Diphthong wrote: Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating? Beats me.
Palm up, palm down, whatever. Just don't jerk me off when I'm leading.
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sungam
Jun 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
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areyoumydude wrote: edge wrote: Diphthong wrote: Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating? Beats me. Palm up, palm down, whatever. Just don't jerk me off when I'm leading.
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Diphthong
Jun 28, 2011, 6:56 PM
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sungam wrote: areyoumydude wrote: edge wrote: Diphthong wrote: Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating? Beats me. Palm up, palm down, whatever. Just don't jerk me off when I'm leading. So, just double checking here, if I want to jerk you off, I should only do it at the belay, or when you are seconding?
I'd hate to think that you guys are the types of people that would lead a climb and not have the common decency to give your second a reacharound.
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areyoumydude
Jun 28, 2011, 7:29 PM
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sungam wrote: areyoumydude wrote: edge wrote: Diphthong wrote: Wait a sec, you mean this entire discussion isn't a euphemism for masturbating? Beats me. Palm up, palm down, whatever. Just don't jerk me off when I'm leading. So, just double checking here, if I want to jerk you off, I should only do it at the belay, or when you are seconding?
Either that or after dinner and drinks.
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