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SapperMike
Jul 2, 2011, 4:03 AM
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Are there anchor in place in the areas where you can top rope?
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dynobelay
Jul 2, 2011, 4:34 PM
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Nope
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SapperMike
Jul 3, 2011, 3:57 AM
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Hey thanks, do you know the area well?
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dynobelay
Jul 3, 2011, 7:14 AM
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Oh, I like it there- wild, dirty, lonely.
But its almost all adventure climbing so you have to be ready for that.
Its possible to top rope a few things by scrambling around to a tree with biners and slings. Toproper's Buttress by the climb "Chinese Handcuffs" is one place. Another is by scrambling from the right onto a ledge above some short climbs like "Eldorado" or "Quivering Hips".
Allamuchy is good for top rope. And all the climbs at Ricks Rocks can be toproped by slinging trees.
(This post was edited by dynobelay on Jul 3, 2011, 7:17 AM)
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njrox
Jul 5, 2011, 2:16 PM
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been wanting to get up on Tammany for a while now. Send me a message if your'e intestered.
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SapperMike
Jul 6, 2011, 2:33 AM
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I'm brand new to climbing...only been to gyms. I'm just seeing what's out there for now while I continue to climb.
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joeforte
Jul 7, 2011, 3:50 AM
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SapperMike wrote: I'm brand new to climbing...only been to gyms. I'm just seeing what's out there for now while I continue to climb.
DWG is not for new climbers. It is adventure climbing for sure. You can easily get yourself in trouble there.
You are better off at either of the other two areas suggested above, if you have someone with you that knows how to build an anchor. They are both good for beginners, but require anchor building skills to set up.
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SapperMike
Jul 7, 2011, 1:19 PM
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It doesn't seem to hard to set up an anchor...slings and carabiners?
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michael1245
Jul 7, 2011, 1:53 PM
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SapperMike wrote: It doesn't seem to hard to set up an anchor...slings and carabiners?
on a bolted route, yes.
anchoring off of trees and boulders? likely, you'll need static rope. at the very least some durable cordage.
keep in mind most of tammany is multi-pitch and you approach on the upper-cliff trail.
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SapperMike
Jul 7, 2011, 4:57 PM
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just trying to learn without paying for classes
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michael1245
Jul 7, 2011, 5:12 PM
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mt tammany isn't the place to learn. the gap is pretty wild, even for someone who knows what they're doing. nevermind coming straight from the gym to rock for the first time. wait, save up a few bucks, and go out with a guide...or find an experienced climber. you can build anchors in your backyard and go out there with a good fundamental understanding of "bunny ears off of two sturdy trees", but there's a little more to it and having a watchful and experienced eye looking over your shoulder for the first time out is a good investment. good luck.
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SapperMike
Jul 7, 2011, 7:07 PM
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What makes it so difficult? Nothing to anchor off of? How are anchors in my back yard different from the ones I would use anywhere else..shouldn't be right? You guys got be worried
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michael1245
Jul 7, 2011, 7:59 PM
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I’d be happy to explain. And don’t take this the wrong way either…not doubting your intelligence, ability or eagerness. You may climb well in the gym, and your climbing skills may transfer well on rock…but, you’re outdoor climbing skills (talking about anchoring, cliff safety, rope management, etc.) should already be well developed before venturing out to The Gap. It’s not about building an anchor, it’s about the overall knowledge of outdoor climbing. You can build an anchor 1-2-3 and top-rope all day like you’re at the gym at some crags. The Gap, not so much…
For one, it’s multi-pitch climbing. The cliffs are too tall to top-rope. You build your tree anchor up top, lower your rope, and you’ll see there’s a lot of air between the tail ends and the ground. You may find a few shorter routes that are an exception. But, for the most part the cliffs are multi-pitch lead climbs.
Two, Tammany is a very dangerous place for a beginner. The vegetation is overgrown and a lot of the rock is loose. Trust me when I say those two short sentences carry a heavy weight of caution with them. The loose rock and overgrown vegetation are really a factor when it comes to quality of climbing. It’s not clean climbing, like you would see at the Gunks. It’s dirty, funky, grungy, and scary.
Allamuchy is a better place to start out. The upper three walls are a great place to learn how to safely set up top-rope climbs and learn. Ralph Stover is another great place to learn, and I’m pretty sure there are some bolted multi-pitch climbs. Those two places are established for climbing. The Gap? The Gap is sort of just a big cliff out there in the woods, in comparison. That’s why people refer to the climbing there as Adventure Climbing.
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SapperMike
Jul 8, 2011, 12:05 AM
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Oh alright I'm tracking now. Sounds like fun but definitely not ready for all that yet. I'll just stick to easier areas.
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joeforte
Jul 8, 2011, 11:18 AM
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Great explanation! Thank you for taking the time to spell it out for him.
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Ethirty
Jul 11, 2011, 5:51 PM
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If your gonna be around Saturday, ill be climbing some where in nj, between my brother and i, we have a nice amount of experience building anchors. Your welcome to join us. And what part of nj are you from?
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SapperMike
Jul 11, 2011, 8:00 PM
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I live in Bloomfield, Essex county..Originally from Sussex county. Where are you climbing? I have a harness and shoes.
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