I would say that qualifies as a problem for Earth Treks. I don't think these events will affect climbing as a sport. They will however affect Earth Treks ability to attract new climbers though.

I can understand it happening once at a gym. However, two separate incidents within a couple of weeks at separate gyms indicates to me that Earth Treks was not able to properly supervise their students or the instructors.

There is a lot of troubling information on the page below.

https://www.earthtreksclimbing.com/...rom-earth-treks.html

I would say that qualifies as a problem for Earth Treks. I don't think these events will affect climbing as a sport. They will however affect Earth Treks ability to attract new climbers though.

I can understand it happening once at a gym. However, two separate incidents within a couple of weeks at separate gyms indicates to me that Earth Treks was not able to properly supervise their students or the instructors.

There is a lot of troubling information on the page below.

https://www.earthtreksclimbing.com/...rom-earth-treks.html

As much as I'd hate to, lets keep these incidents seperate. I've climbed with Dan before, nice enough kid, good coach. I don't know why, but I have this gut feeling that a 19 year old getting involved with a 14-15 year old is much different than a 31 year old doing the same. I was 19 once, and I was a stupid kid. Not that stupid, but still stupid. I have a feeling this second incident will go by with much less fan-fare than the first.

As much as I'd hate to, lets keep these incidents seperate. I've climbed with Dan before, nice enough kid, good coach. I don't know why, but I have this gut feeling that a 19 year old getting involved with a 14-15 year old is much different than a 31 year old doing the same. I was 19 once, and I was a stupid kid. Not that stupid, but still stupid. I have a feeling this second incident will go by with much less fan-fare than the first.

- no idea how old the girl is. Could be a 13 year old, could be a 17 year old.

Run down of charging scheme in MD:
http://www.oag.state.md.us/...er/understanding.htm

Seeing as the age of consent in Maryland and DC is 16, I would assume she wasn't 17.

I iwll say that it does seem Earth Trks IS making an effort at, if nothing else, damage control(contacted parents before media news release, having meetings with parents). But it also appears they are really concerned with doing the right thing and not just to cover themselves.

...So would you take the child's word as enough evidence to remove your child from the situation?...

I know the media has on occasion shown some instances where, apparently, accusations were not able to be upheld, and thus the child becomes the accused(of lying/making it up).

All I can say is that - kids don't generally make up this sort of allegation.

I cannot imagine even THINKING I'd send my kid back to work with someone where this sort of thing was alleged. A shame, if my child didn't understand why not being able to continue the status quo. But parents are entrusted with their child's care and better safe than sorry, if you ask me.

I know the media has on occasion shown some instances where, apparently, accusations were not able to be upheld, and thus the child becomes the accused(of lying/making it up).

All I can say is that - kids don't generally make up this sort of allegation.

I cannot imagine even THINKING I'd send my kid back to work with someone where this sort of thing was alleged. A shame, if my child didn't understand why not being able to continue the status quo. But parents are entrusted with their child's care and better safe than sorry, if you ask me.

How did the police become involved in the first place?

Court documents in Montague's case — which misspell his name as Montaque — say that police were contacted June 24 by the girl's mother, who reported that her daughter, a member of a competitive team, "had been sexually assaulted by a climbing instructor." The girl's parents identified him as Montague and said he had been her instructor since she joined the program in April 2010.

"He was aware of how old she was," the document says, although references to her age were blacked out. Montague and the girl, who was interviewed by the police, "began to have a sexual relationship" in March this year, and met on four occasions at her home "when her mother was away for a few hours."

According to the police account, the girl and Montague knew that "what they were doing was wrong."

As for Daniel's arrest, I'd like to remind everyone that an arrest is not a conviction. While Mike already confessed to his crimes, Daniel is still innocent until the courts say otherwise. For now, only he and the girl know the truth about what happened. Please understand that I'm not saying the girl is lying, or trying to minimize any experience she may have had. I'm simply choosing to believe in my friend's innocence in a case where the facts are not known. From all that I've ever seen or heard, Daniel is a good kid. He's a friend I've happily trusted with my life when we're out climbing, and when I have kids I'll trust him with them too.

As an Earth Treks member, I've certainly heard people say things about him, but nothing more than rumors and speculation of the "that guy is creepy" variety.

I thought the mother's quote concerning Daniel's arrest was odd. The "they knew what they were doing was wrong" bit. Wouldn't an assault be a "what HE was doing" not a "what THEY were doing"?