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ACLSRN
Jul 18, 2011, 5:56 PM
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I am considering buying one of the above devices.
The GriGri 1st model can be had for around $64, the GriFri2 sports a $94 price tag.
My questions are:
*Is there that much diff between both models other then the weight?
*Is the GriGri really that good of a belay device versus say a good ole ATC?
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granite_grrl
Jul 18, 2011, 6:03 PM
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I liked using the GG2 because it's a bit smaller and fit my hands better. Other than that I can't really offer any arguments as to why someone might prefer the GG2 over the GG1.
As for it being "better" than a tube style device, it really depends on what you plan on doing with it. I personally think it's superior when sport climbing, especially when someone is working a route and hanging all over it. Sometimes I use it when trad climbing, sometimes not. It doesn't make that much of a difference to me for that.
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ACLSRN
Jul 18, 2011, 6:09 PM
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Well I am considering it for climbing with my girlfriend which is new to climbing - tho she has been extensively taught FIRST how to use a ATC first and foremost.
I kinda like the idea that the GriGri locks up right away and wouldn't allow rope to slip thru it - perhaps like a ATC might and someone (me) maybe taking a longer fall before the rope gets checked...
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jt512
Jul 19, 2011, 6:22 AM
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ACLSRN wrote: Well I am considering it for climbing with my girlfriend which is new to climbing - tho she has been extensively taught FIRST how to use a ATC first and foremost. I kinda like the idea that the GriGri locks up right away and wouldn't allow rope to slip thru it - perhaps like a ATC might and someone (me) maybe taking a longer fall before the rope gets checked...
It's posts like this that make me want to agree with everything healyje ever said.
Jay
(This post was edited by jt512 on Jul 19, 2011, 6:24 AM)
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lena_chita
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Jul 19, 2011, 2:17 PM
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Gri-gri 2 definitely fits better in smaller hands, and is better with smaller-diameter ropes.
But it isn't like women were unable to belay with a gri-gri until v2 came out...
I would say that if your rope is 9.8mm or fatter, go with the original gri-gri. If you climb on 9.1-9.8mm rope, go with gri-gri 2.
But THIS is not a good reason to get a gri-gri. This is a good reason to get instruction:
ACLSRN wrote: I kinda like the idea that the GriGri locks up right away and wouldn't allow rope to slip thru it - perhaps like a ATC might and someone (me) maybe taking a longer fall before the rope gets checked... |
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njrox
Jul 19, 2011, 2:23 PM
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ACLSRN wrote: I kinda like the idea that the GriGri locks up right away and wouldn't allow rope to slip thru it
This is a very deceiving feature. Amongst friends I say that it makes it "idiot friendly" but not "idiot proof".
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ACLSRN
Jul 19, 2011, 2:31 PM
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lena_chita wrote: Gri-gri 2 definitely fits better in smaller hands, and is better with smaller-diameter ropes. But it isn't like women were unable to belay with a gri-gri until v2 came out... I would say that if your rope is 9.8mm or fatter, go with the original gri-gri. If you climb on 9.1-9.8mm rope, go with gri-gri 2. But THIS is not a good reason to get a gri-gri. This is a good reason to get instruction: ACLSRN wrote: I kinda like the idea that the GriGri locks up right away and wouldn't allow rope to slip thru it - perhaps like a ATC might and someone (me) maybe taking a longer fall before the rope gets checked...
I've taken climbing lessons from Don Mellor himself and have climbed with a lot of experienced lead climbers for years....yes I haven't climbed in many years but haven't forgotten all the basics and such. GriGri's weren't even heard of when I climbed and I know little about them....
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rokshoxbkr19
Jul 19, 2011, 2:53 PM
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where are you finding the GriGri 1 for $64?
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ACLSRN
Jul 19, 2011, 3:03 PM
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Mountain Gear online had them on special.
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Lbrombach
Jul 20, 2011, 6:46 PM
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The grigri is nice if your climber wants to hang out.
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Adk
Jul 23, 2011, 8:55 PM
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lena_chita wrote: Gri-gri 2 definitely fits better in smaller hands, and is better with smaller-diameter ropes. But it isn't like women were unable to belay with a gri-gri until v2 came out... I would say that if your rope is 9.8mm or fatter, go with the original gri-gri. If you climb on 9.1-9.8mm rope, go with gri-gri 2. quote] Ditto!!! I noticed this right off the bat. I belayed with a 1 and then switched to a 2 on a 10.2mm. I felt much more in control with the 1. The "sweet spot" while lowering is much smaller with a 2 on larger ropes. .....That being said I need to go 1 and 2....schmell!!!!!!!!!
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sungam
Jul 23, 2011, 9:59 PM
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Scottek, I just want to let you know that it gives a warm fuzzy feeling inside seeing that quote as your signature. Partially because I'm being quoted in your signature, but mostly because Kartissa a bitch.
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Kartessa
Jul 24, 2011, 2:35 AM
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sungam wrote: Scottek, I just want to let you know that it gives a warm fuzzy feeling inside seeing that quote as your signature. Partially because I'm being quoted in your signature, but mostly because Kartissa a bitch.
Better to be a bitch than a sheep when Sungam's around.
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socalclimber
Jul 24, 2011, 2:39 AM
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It's taken me a while, but I have to admit, I was 100% wrong.
For years on this site I have stated that there is no such thing as a dangerous belay device.
I stand corrected.
ALL BELAY DEVICES ARE INSANELY DANGEROUS DEVICES.
This is simply because they are in the hands of people who do not know how to use them, and/or rely on them to do the job they are incapable or unwilling to do themselves.
Learn to belay, and the device you use will not matter.
(This post was edited by socalclimber on Jul 24, 2011, 2:40 AM)
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scottek67
Jul 24, 2011, 2:40 AM
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I am glad you liked it!  I will have to post more to get it out there! I think you are right in saying it (obviously) and keep up the good work!
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billcoe_
Jul 24, 2011, 2:43 AM
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Kartessa wrote: Better to be a bitch than a sheep when Sungam's around.
BTW, I know someone who returned a gri gri 2 and bought another 1. I have both, they both work equally well within the parameters and rope sizes that Petzl lays out for them.
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