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Cliches you're tired of hearing in Climbing?

"Squeeze handholds until water comes out"

"instant classic"

What's yours?


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'Just stand up on your L/R foot and the holds will be there'


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Maybe not a cliché, but "Gumby"

Seriously, who came up with that ridiculous expression? When I hear someone use it about a new climber, they go way down in my estimation.


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guangzhou wrote:
Cliches you're tired of hearing in Climbing?

"Squeeze handholds until water comes out"

"instant classic"

What's yours?

I have never heard the first cliche.


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wivanoff wrote:
Maybe not a cliché, but "Gumby"

Seriously, who came up with that ridiculous expression? When I hear someone use it about a new climber, they go way down in my estimation.

What about gumboat? Gumbzilla? Gumbatron?


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wivanoff wrote:
Maybe not a cliché, but "Gumby"

Seriously, who came up with that ridiculous expression? When I hear someone use it about a new climber, they go way down in my estimation.

I like that one; it's synonymous with "danger area" in my head.


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wivanoff wrote:
Maybe not a cliché, but "Gumby"

Seriously, who came up with that ridiculous expression? When I hear someone use it about a new climber, they go way down in my estimation.

Been called gumby a few too many times, eh? Tongue


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Everything that labels climbing as "extreme," or climbers as "adrenalin junkies," is cliche to me. Virtually every time I see climbing in mainstream media, it seems trite and forced.


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wivanoff wrote:
Maybe not a cliché, but "Gumby"

Seriously, who came up with that ridiculous expression? When I hear someone use it about a new climber, they go way down in my estimation.
Don't know who, but you're talking about a term that's been entrenched in US climbing vernacular for well over 25 years. It was used extensively in the Gunks and the Valley in the 80's. In the UK there's an even longer history of calling new climbers "bumblies". Since Gumby is green and someone new to an endeavor is also "green", it fits well. It was also helped by the Eddie Murphy sketches on SNL. Don't fight it. In fact, the way you worded your objections suggests that you may well be a Gumby.

Of course there are also these definitions: http://www.urbandictionary.com/...erm=gumby&page=4

http://books.google.com/...ge&q&f=false

From Wikipedia: Gumby
An inexperienced, unknowledgeable and oblivious climber; is a derogatory term. Gumbies are incapable of learning.

In the US military, specifically the Marines, the phrase "semper Gumby" is used to describe their demolition teams - meaning always flexible. It's a riff on the Marine motto semper fidelis - always faithful.

[Edit to fix botched link]


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johnwesely wrote:
guangzhou wrote:
Cliches you're tired of hearing in Climbing?

"Squeeze handholds until water comes out"

"instant classic"

What's yours?

I have never heard the first cliche.

Me neither. must be region-specific.

--I dislike "alllez-allez" yelled as encouragement by anybody other than French speakers.

--The infinite variety of phrases that include "bro" and "brah"


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lena_chita wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
guangzhou wrote:
Cliches you're tired of hearing in Climbing?

"Squeeze handholds until water comes out"

"instant classic"

What's yours?

I have never heard the first cliche.

Me neither. must be region-specific.

--I dislike "alllez-allez" yelled as encouragement by anybody other than French speakers.

--The infinite variety of phrases that include "bro" and "brah"

Allez Brah. Venga it.


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--I dislike "alllez-allez" yelled as encouragement by anybody other than French speakers.

--The infinite variety of phrases that include "bro" and "brah"
+1
Never been a fan of sent/send and rather dislike "rig" to refer to a route. Combinations are perhaps the most annoying: "Yo, brah, nice send - you crushed that rig."


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j_ung wrote:
Been called gumby a few too many times, eh? Tongue

LOL.. actually, no. At least not to my face Wink
Oh, wait......There's a first time for everything.

marc801 wrote:
Don't know who, but you're talking about a term that's been entrenched in US climbing vernacular for well over 25 years...... In fact, the way you worded your objections suggests that you may well be a Gumby.

Thanks for the history lesson. I'm a little bit aware of US climbing vernacular as my first trad lead was in 1971 - using pitons for pro. And I've been pretty active since then.

We were all new climbers once. When I see someone new that might be a danger to himself or others, I prefer to offer help instead of ridicule. But, I'm not as cool as a lot of other people. After all, my first climbing partner was "Pokey" Wink


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lena_chita wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
guangzhou wrote:
Cliches you're tired of hearing in Climbing?

"Squeeze handholds until water comes out"

"instant classic"

What's yours?

I have never heard the first cliche.

Me neither. must be region-specific.

--I dislike "alllez-allez" yelled as encouragement by anybody other than French speakers.

--The infinite variety of phrases that include "bro" and "brah"

com a mão - in portuguese literally means "with your hand," but when it's said quickly it sounds like "come on."

I don't hate this. In fact, I think it's kind of funny. The Brazilians have a lot of fun with both meanings.

I hate bro and brah.


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"send"

and

"send it"

Curt


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"The best climber is the one . . ."

I can't even finish it, it makes me cringe so much.

Jay


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"Gumby" is a great term, and it doesn't mean "n00b," which is also a great term.

Jay


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"Take"

So cliche.


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If you include "Take" then you need to include On Belay, Belay On, Climbing, Climbing On, Take On and Ready to Lower. I thought these were standard. Who new?


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FriscoWilderness wrote:
If you include "Take" then you need to include On Belay, Belay On, Climbing, Climbing On, Take On and Ready to Lower. I thought these were standard. Who new?

Don't forget "tension"


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True.


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FriscoWilderness wrote:
If you include "Take" then you need to include On Belay, Belay On, Climbing, Climbing On, Take On and Ready to Lower. I thought these were standard. Who new?

Who says "climbing on" and "take on"?

If you can't tell your partner has taken, then they haven't.


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bill413 wrote:
FriscoWilderness wrote:
If you include "Take" then you need to include On Belay, Belay On, Climbing, Climbing On, Take On and Ready to Lower. I thought these were standard. Who new?

Don't forget "tension"

that one is showing your age....


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shockabuku wrote:
FriscoWilderness wrote:
If you include "Take" then you need to include On Belay, Belay On, Climbing, Climbing On, Take On and Ready to Lower. I thought these were standard. Who new?

Who says "climbing on" and "take on"?

If you can't tell your partner has taken, then they haven't.

But if you believe your partner has taken, he hasn't necessarily, as many accidents have suggested; so a verbal confirmation from the belayer isn't a bad idea. I say "Got."

At my gym, belayers are instructed to say "Lower on" in response to "Lower." Now, that's retarded.

Jay

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