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philbox
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Mar 11, 2003, 2:26 AM
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Miss B has had a cat scan and this has revealed no damage to her spinal column or any of her backbones. The reported damage to her Atlas bone that supports her skull is revealed to not now be damaged. This is indeed great news. She is still in a drug induced coma until brain pressure reduces and then she will be slowly brought out of the coma she is in.
I have been passing on all your well wishing to the family.
The accident happened at Frog Buttress at Mt. French, South East Queensland, Australia.
I am soooo glad that you guys are taking this helmet message to heart. This is exactly what the families wishes are. All of her skull fractures as revealed by the xrays and cat scan are where her helmet would have been.
Do it, wear your helmet, refuse to belay a partner who does not have a helmet on.
...Phil...
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moabbeth
Mar 11, 2003, 2:51 AM
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First off, thank God she's alive. When I started reading the initial post and the summary of injuries I was sure the fall was fatal. Congradualtions and thanks from all climbers to all the EMS workers who were able to get there and help save her life.
Best wishes for her recovery. What is the prognosis?
Bit it's another sad example of how important it is to wear a helmet on lead. I've started leads this year and I'd never go up a route without one. Even if I get on a route I'm totally confident I can lead I still wear one. Better safe than sorry.
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corpse
Mar 11, 2003, 3:15 AM
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helmet on leads? I've done limited outdoor climbing, and one thing I've learned from many recent stories, is to wear a helmet eveing if TR'ing. So many what-ifs, and a "what-if" regarding your helmet shouldn't be one of them. I hope she gets past the crux she's going through now and makes a 100% recovery.
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the_elk
Mar 11, 2003, 3:36 AM
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This story brought back a lot of horrible memories,
Three years before I even started climbing I witnessed a friend of mine fall off a rock down the coast here in Oz. We were all young and stupid. I had no idea of what rockclimbing was, we were efectively soloing a rather horrendous piece of chossy sandy loose rock and I watched as my mate, at age 13, fell backwards off the rock, losing his footing, and land head first on rocks below. Needless to say he was announced dead on arrival at hospital.
Never will I forget the sound, the adrenalin, or the absolute terror of that moment.
I only hope and pray that this story has a far happier ending than mine. I feel so helpless in these situations, Miss B sounds like a strong woman. I want to send my thoughts and prayers out to her and her family. I know how desperate these times can be. Words just don't seem to say enough... but these events really hit home and remind us of how mortal we are.
The irony of my story was that the greatest healing from my ordeal was actually taking up climbing. Now I climb for freedom, and for safety.
Emily.
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peirreleclimb
Mar 11, 2003, 5:48 PM
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:cry: THIS IS A HORRIFIC ACCIDENT, by one persons accident i pray that we all may learn and that we may have less and less near fatal accidents. TO this young woman i send out my prayers nad best wishes for a safe and speedy recovery
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flynnypek
Mar 11, 2003, 9:47 PM
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This is a terrible thing to read! I am shocked!
Miss B will be in my prayers. I hope she recovers soon!
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mnutz
Mar 11, 2003, 10:19 PM
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Best Wishes to everyone involved.
I know I am wearing my helmet more often. After reading this it may just become a permanant fixture on my head!
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fanederhand
Mar 11, 2003, 10:46 PM
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Hope all is well with Miss. B. I always always always wear my helmit when I am leading climbs. My wife is a RN dealing with head injuries and my son has had a bad head injury and they are not good. Head injuries are one of the hardest things to deal with. I love climbing, so I dont want to miss it because I took a lead fall and hurt my head. Thanks for sharing this accident story with us to help us climb safer.
Frank
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philbox
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Mar 12, 2003, 2:19 AM
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http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=11828 This is a pic of the green Alien that was the second piece that pulled. I am looking for peoples opinions on why this piece pulled. The piece did not appear to have had a quickdraw on it. The piece above this one was a black Alien and it pulled after the climber called for a take and she had rested on it for perhaps 2 seconds.
Opinions on this piece already expressed are that it could have walked in to a wider part of the crack and then 2 lobes inverted thus allowing the cam to be pulled out of the crack after being shock loaded.
...Phil...
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addiroids
Mar 12, 2003, 3:16 AM
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I'm very sorry to hear about this. I too thought it was fatal when reading the description. Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery. Always wear your damn helmet people.
TRADitionally yours,
Cali Dirtbag
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biff
Mar 12, 2003, 3:25 AM
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when I looked at http://www.pbase.com/image/14177337 My first question was .. Did the peice walk, or was it misplaced?
Does the Peice in Questiong have cam stops?
Would cam stops have helped?
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tradclimber2
Mar 12, 2003, 6:01 AM
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Philbox, as you mentioned in your first post, you would prefer people not give their opinions of how this incident/accident happened for the time being. If it is now time for people to start the judging process, it MIGHT be a good idea to move the "opinion" portion to a new topic so the people who care (most of us, I am sure) can just send their thoughts and prayers here. That would help keep the feelings and opinions separated. Just a thought. Ben
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philbox
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Mar 12, 2003, 6:11 AM
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Hey Ben that is indeed a very good idea.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/....php?p=316324#316324 Head on over to the link provided to Gear heads forum for opinions and comments on the gear.
Thank you all for your concern.
...Phil...
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duskerhu
Mar 12, 2003, 8:10 AM
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Sorry to hear of this tragic accident! Give Miss B and her family and friends my best wishes and hope for a speedy recovery!
Live Free!
Play Hard!
Climb On! SAFELY
duskerhu
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josephine
Mar 12, 2003, 8:59 AM
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What a horrible accident.I'm shocked!Phil thank you very much for posting this.I didn't wear a helmet before,almost never!From now on i will!
My hopes and wishes for a speedy recovery to Miss B!
Thanks again!
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broker
Mar 12, 2003, 7:23 PM
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hate to hear of anbody's injury, pass on my prayers for the family and her
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hoppinbig
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I just went to the website and saw pictures of the accident scene - really made this real to me and instantly my stomach just turned. My thoughts and prayers are with you Miss B. We're all hoping for your speedy recovery.
Please keep us updated with her condition.
Play safe everyone
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bishop
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My thoughts and prayers are with you Miss B., family and friends. We're all pulling for you.
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msecoda
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My prayers and thoughts are with Miss B and her family.
"We know our father hears our prayers and in his loving way
Will bless and keep us in his care through every night and day
So trusting in his holy will this prayer goes out to you
That in his mercy and his love He'll bless and heal you too."
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msecoda
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My prayers and thoughts are with Miss B and her family.
"We know our father hears our prayers and in his loving way
Will bless and keep us in his care through every night and day
So trusting in his holy will this prayer goes out to you
That in his mercy and his love He'll bless and heal you too."
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rocmonkey
Mar 13, 2003, 7:54 AM
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My prayers are with her, her family and friends. :cry:
I hope and pray that a full recovery will soon be at hand.
A very sad incident indeed, but as is the wishes of her family, may this be a lesson to us all.
be strong :?
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philbox
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Mar 13, 2003, 8:58 PM
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Last night I went to visit B at the intensive care unit up at the hospital. She is improving but still remains in a drug induced coma. There is some hope that things are on the up and up but it really is too early to tell. She has much to go yet before anyone can tell whether she will be 100 percent. They just can`t say with brain injuries like B sustained.
...Phil... still praying.
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bentsid
Mar 13, 2003, 11:04 PM
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Wanted to let you know that your updates are appreciated.
I know this (rock climbing) community will continue our prayers and
hopes for a full recovery.
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naturalhigh
Mar 14, 2003, 7:28 AM
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I am truly sorry to hear of this tragic accident. It's great to hear how well the rescue operation went. Climbers truly will band together and help another when the need arises.
My best wishes to Miss B for a speedy and successful recovery. My heart goes out to all involved.
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rocmonkey
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Still praying... :cry:
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