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billcoe_
Aug 16, 2002, 6:57 PM
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Trevor: that's an awesome idea. Perhaps PTPP should explore it. There should be some way RC.Com can distribute the book (perhaps a fee area on the site containing the info) and kick Chongo a commission per book/dollar sold. BTW: to those interested in copyright law. I am not a lawyer, but the law is VERY clear. If you copy even 1 page and give or sell it to a friend: YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW if you do not have Chongos permission. That is not to say you can't write your own book with the same material. There is plenty of climbing books out there covering the same material in different ways. You just can't copy Chongos work for free without permission. That's stealing, and it does violate the law. Regards: Bill
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eclarke98
Nov 17, 2002, 5:27 PM
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Do you think I would have any luck sending Chongo a money order at this point in time? I mean is he in the Valley during winter, and is he still willing to sell copies of his book? Thanks for the help.
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passthepitonspete
Nov 17, 2002, 9:45 PM
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If Chongo is still in the Valley then YES! you will have luck. He does winter at J-Tree frequently, and you can usually reach him through the folks at Nomad Ventures I think it is. Has anyone seen Chuck in the Valley recently?
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rockhugger
Nov 28, 2002, 2:55 AM
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I looked for the book on the Library of congress site and could not find it listed at all.I searched the number,tx 4-583-687 and I searched under charles v tucker and tucker,charles v.and the new number too.How is it that Chongo is www illiterate but he has a website? What about his profile on this website?I'm going to Cali to confirm that Chongo and this book about big walls in fact does not exist.I don't think PTPP really exists ,I think all those pictures of PTPP are really doctored pictures of Lynn Hill!Of course,Lynn Hill doesn't solo does she? Better get MOULDER AND SCULLY. [ This Message was edited by: rockhugger on 2002-11-27 20:09 ]
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coldclimb
Nov 28, 2002, 4:18 AM
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Quote:If you copy even 1 page and give or sell it to a friend: YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW if you do not have Chongos permission. So we can only give or sell it to people we either dislike, or don't know?
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gunked
Nov 28, 2002, 4:44 AM
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saw Chongo in the Valley on Sat. Nov. 16th Jason
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lazide
Dec 4, 2002, 3:28 PM
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I was hoping to get a copy of the book. Still available? Any chance of sending my money and having it received by chongo before next season? I will be in j-tree for a couple of days after x-mas, anyone know if he will be there around then? I have been really impressed with pptp's info (usually it is 'The Better Way' ), and I am definitly looking forward to the big wall bible.
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passthepitonspete
Dec 22, 2002, 8:20 AM
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Well, I'll be buggered! Someone got Chongo's website up and running! You can click here to order Chongo's Complete Book of Big Wall Climbing. You will see that the instructions are identical to those I already gave you - but this website seems to suggest Chuck will be checking his mailbox over the winter. Cheers, Pete Editor of Chongo's book
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passthepitonspete
Apr 21, 2003, 6:02 PM
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It was recently suggested that I do not give Chongo the due credit he deserves. Nothing could be further from the truth. I owe most everything I know to my Wall Doctor, and I have been promoting his book virtually non-stop since I got here. Five thousand hits on this post is your first [HINT]. Chongo's passion for his Complete Book of Big Wall Climbing had waned in recent years as his interests lay in the direction of his physics book. The unfortunate loss of his great friend and partner Jose Pereyra [also a friend of mine] may allow him to refocus on the book. As you can see by the number of hits and email addresses on this post, there is plenty of interest! You can find Chongo and order his book from Chongo Nation.com.
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timpanogos
Feb 22, 2004, 11:06 PM
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Hey, the Chongo nation site seems to be invalid this year, anybody know the status of obtaining Chongo's big wall book? Chad
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mike_ok
Feb 22, 2004, 11:36 PM
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In reply to: Hey, the Chongo nation site seems to be invalid this year, anybody know the status of obtaining Chongo's big wall book? Chad A cached version of the site says this: ***To purchase, send POSTAL money order (postal money order only) to: Chongo, BOX 1948, Yosmite, CA 95389 I'd send him a letter just asking if the box is still good... then go from there. Send him a stamped envelope to reply yes with. The last price was $100.
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breezey
Oct 31, 2006, 1:45 AM
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Bump. Anyone know if you can still buy Chongo's book ? If so will he send it overseas (Australia), if so how much ? Cheers
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gunked
Oct 31, 2006, 2:38 AM
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Aaah.. raising the dead (thread) just in time for halloween?!? Seriously, you'll probably have better luck getting in touch with Pete Zabrok (Dr. Piton I believe or something similar) on Supertopo.com. If the book is still available, he would probably know about it. Good luck! -Jason
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dalfollo
Oct 31, 2006, 9:14 PM
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Still available...check this link out: http://chongonation.com/BWBook.htm I understand that while he is in Europe getting his hair done, you can order it through the website....I believe the site will direct you to his local "publisher".... enjoy...
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fiend
Nov 1, 2006, 1:40 AM
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In reply to: ...I believe the site will direct you to his local "publisher".... Kinko's?
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epic_ed
Nov 1, 2006, 11:19 PM
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Sweet freakin mercy...we need a "zombie" smiley to accompany resurrected threads like this one. http://www.moviesonline.ca/...lies/zombie_moan.gif There we go... Chongo is living in Sacramento, CA at the moment. You could probably contact Ammon, who would get you his contact info or at least let him know you're interested in ordering a book. Ammon's contact info: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/view_profile.html?id=274416&topic_id=273917 Ed
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mdavid01
Jan 5, 2007, 2:26 AM
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Spread the word. Chongo's book can be purchased by contacting Debbie at Dragon Publishing 626-798-0127 it's well worth the 100.
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rickoldskool
Jan 9, 2007, 6:05 AM
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Have any of you SEEN Chongo's book? There may be one and a half chapters worth reading, the rest is common knowledge basics. It isn't worth whatever your paying. If it weren't for peet-spray the thing wouldn't have seen the light of day. Save your money. Now that I've broken my silence, this forum is dying a slow and painful death.
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mdavid01
Jan 9, 2007, 2:22 PM
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Of course I have Chongo's book. If you already knew all the info based on your common knowledge then you should be congratulated however I completely disagree with you. It's worth the money ($100) Heck the darn thing is so huge it has to run at least half that to print. Chongo's wall book is not the glossy, concise mag with pics that most might desire. It's filled with crazy details that have been found to work great over the years. Sure there is much more detail than most people need....I'd rather have that then a smaller chopped down version. Personally i find that 100 is nothing when compared to the cost of gear, travel and wall equipment that are already on the line for this fun each year. Just the little tips have saved me that much in frustration alone. Chuck is a great person. He's super nice and willing to talk the ear off anyone. He doesn't qualify people before giving advice or helping with wall topics. It's too bad that many just want to tear him down but that just seems to be the nature of the net.
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