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apollodorus
Jul 6, 2003, 4:55 AM
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Black Diamond uses a "Diamond B" symbol as their trademark. Since BD purchased Yvon Chouinard's climbing equipment business in the late 80's, it was natural that they would modify his trademark "Diamond C".
But, the origins go back even further than that. In the Yosemite Mountain shop, they have a nascent museum of ancient climbing goodies, one of which is an oversized carabiner made by the legendary John Salathe. His mark? You guessed it: a "Diamond S". Chouinard was a protege of Salathe, just as BD evolved from Chouinard and Frost's Great Pacific Iron Works.
History. Learn it. Know it. Make it.
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anykineclimb
Jul 6, 2003, 5:45 AM
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Diamond B??
Sorry for my ignorance, I've never seen a "diamond B" logo from BD
Their new logo seems to be a streamlining of of the old Diamond C that Chounard origanally used. Theres still a C in it though.
And the Salathe Diamond S?
I have some old Chounard/Salewa 'biners. Could the "Diamond S" be from Salewa?
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sixter
Jul 6, 2003, 6:16 AM
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I just looked at some of my BD stuff, and my oval 'biners have the diamond c (normal looking c) and my asym D 'biners have the new diamond c with the angular c, same as my ATC... I don't believe I have ever seen a diamond B symbol either...I saw somewhere a little note on the old and new logos... can't remember where...
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ajkclay
Jul 6, 2003, 6:31 AM
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Ahh stuff it I can't get the image to load, here's the link:
http://www.bdel.com/
looks like a "C" to me
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apollodorus
Jul 6, 2003, 7:12 AM
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My space-out.
BD uses (used?) a "Diamond D" logo, not a "Diamond B". I was too lazy to look at my gear, and tried to rely on memory.
The "Diamond S" I saw on the biner that John Salathe made was most likely not a reference to Salewa. It was made in the mid to late '40s. I think it was his personal mark. After all, if you made your own piece of gear, would you put some company's logo on it unless you were making counterfeit gear?
And for what it's worth, the new BD website has a new logo, which is different from their previous one.
And even better: there will soon be a climbers' museum in Yosemite Valley. They have the funding, etc., for their own space. One of the principals told me that they have over 3000 artifacts to display. Cool. The Mountain Shop, right now as a temporary home, has stuff ranging from big nails used for the FA of the Cathedral Spires to one of Harding's Stoveleg Crack pitons. Some of that stuff looks just plain scary.
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chitlinsconcarne
Jul 6, 2003, 2:47 PM
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You're still spacing out there son.
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evoltobmilc
Jul 6, 2003, 3:18 PM
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yeah, I concur- still spacing.
BD has always used a diamond with a C in it. They stuck with their roots of Chouinard Equipment. It's kinda cool to look at a few of my old Chouinard biners and see the same good ol' BD logo that I'm used to seeing.
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brianinslc
Jul 7, 2003, 11:19 PM
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In reply to: Black Diamond uses a "Diamond B" symbol as their trademark. Since BD purchased Yvon Chouinard's climbing equipment business in the late 80's, it was natural that they would modify his trademark "Diamond C".
Uhhh, still a diamond "C", but, different style. Was a diamond C with a BD around outside bottom of the diamond. Now is a kinda groovy neuvo blocky lookin' C thingy, not near as purty, but, nice for datin' that pin you yanked.
In reply to: But, the origins go back even further than that. In the Yosemite Mountain shop, they have a nascent museum of ancient climbing goodies, one of which is an oversized carabiner made by the legendary John Salathe. His mark? You guessed it: a "Diamond S". Chouinard was a protege of Salathe, just as BD evolved from Chouinard and Frost's Great Pacific Iron Works.
Errr...ahhh...was it maybe perhaps a diamond P? As in "Peninsula Ornamental Iron Works"?
In reply to: History. Learn it. Know it. Make it.
Chuckle.
Brian in SLC
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hallm
Jul 8, 2003, 12:35 AM
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John Salathe's mark was, in fact, a "Diamond P" for Peninsula Ornamental Iron Works. I actually pulled out a rusted hard steel "Diamond P" angle out a crack on the Regular on Higher Cathedral Spire about 10 years ago.
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