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orngave
Feb 7, 2002, 1:28 AM
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Ok here is the deal, I bought a rope, and now it is not exactly brand new, but still a good rope. I double butterfly it, and take really good care of it. Only it has started getting these really nasty kinks in it, and it makes it a pain when the belayer has to work them out of it. I have hung it from the top of the rock and rapped down on it... I have left it all stretched out... and I have worked them out numerous times... Is there anything I can do to get them out for good? Thanks
E.B.
[ This Message was edited by: orngave on 2002-02-06 17:31 ]
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beyond_gravity
Feb 7, 2002, 2:24 AM
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Dude, next time your belayer is gonna belay, make a new pile of rope. Take one end, and pull the whole rope though into a new pile, this will stop it from getting kinked. I still havn't figgered how to get rid of the nasty kinks when i try to coil the rope though.
BG
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maculated
Feb 7, 2002, 2:33 AM
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New ropes will get a little kinky for a while. Just flake out your rope a lot and that and climbing will work it out.
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rocmonkey
Feb 7, 2002, 7:02 AM
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The only thing that works for me is to butterfly rol it after use and when I go climbing again I uncoil the whole rope en re-roll it before use...
breathe stone
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512
Feb 7, 2002, 7:08 AM
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naw, that takes too long....just ball it up!
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rado
Feb 7, 2002, 9:07 AM
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What type of belay device do you use?
In my experience, gri-gri, F8 and munter hitch will kink the rope, no matter what you do, while ATC, Reverso, ... won't. At least not as much.
While coiling the rope, don't just put it over the other hand, try to twist it a little with your thumb and index finger.
Rado
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gekolimit
Feb 7, 2002, 10:55 AM
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Just hang it out over a tall office building. Make sure it is free hanging and leave it for about 15 minuits.
I go to my dad's office to do this.
Just be carefull with guards who might think your up to the wrong thing.
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kelownaclimber
Feb 7, 2002, 2:13 PM
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Rado,
Gri-Gri's do Not twist the rope when used properly,A.T.C.'s are also good.....stay away from 8's and munter's they are out there just to get you cursing when you try to coil your rope...also try using a rope bag,no more flaking the rope out,just open,tie in and climb like the wind!!!!
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orngave
Feb 7, 2002, 2:36 PM
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I use an ATC, and very rarely a stitch plate.
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indiesummit
Feb 7, 2002, 3:33 PM
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I think how much a rope kinks also has a lot to do with how you uncoil it from its package...someone was telling me you have to be careful to unspool it in the way it was spooled. What the hell this means, I have no idea. If anyone else can help on this matter, I'd definitely appreciate it as I'm about to buy a new rope.
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flyingdutchman
Feb 7, 2002, 4:04 PM
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I think indiesummit is right about the importance of properly uncoiling a brand new rope from the package. I vaguely remember reading about that on some literature that came with a rope...I think it was a PMI?
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toobigtoclimb
Feb 7, 2002, 4:13 PM
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New rope are always kinky. I've tried uncoiling them per directions the first time etc. - nothing seems to work. A little climbing seems to work the kinks out. Stay away from figure 8's and munter hitches.
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jules
Feb 9, 2002, 1:53 AM
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Yes, ropes are really kinky...
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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codey
Feb 11, 2002, 12:21 AM
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It depends how you handle them.
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flashsixteen
Feb 11, 2002, 12:58 AM
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I am not sure if you do this, but I have seen some people who don't, so sorry if this a waste of your reading time. It depends on what you do when you coil it up. If you are going to butterfly it or coil it don't just wrap it as it comes, I twist the rope until I get a straight hanging loop (meaning no twisting, flat as if against a board), if your loop is all twisted than you are going to have that trouble. Even hanging it from a building sometimes doesn't work, I tried. It usually takes me 10-15 minutes to wrap it so it doesn't tangle because you spend so much time twisting the rope to get each loop flat/untwisted and by the end you have about 5 ft of super twisted rope. Hope this helps or that you understand what I mean.
Brian
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flashsixteen
Feb 11, 2002, 12:59 AM
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I am not sure if you do this, but I have seen some people who don't, so sorry if this a waste of your reading time. It depends on what you do when you coil it up. If you are going to butterfly it or coil it don't just wrap it as it comes, I twist the rope until I get a straight hanging loop (meaning no twisting, flat as if against a board), if your loop is all twisted than you are going to have that trouble. Even hanging it from a building sometimes doesn't work, I tried. It usually takes me 10-15 minutes to wrap it so it doesn't tangle because you spend so much time twisting the rope to get each loop flat/untwisted and by the end you have about 5 ft of super twisted rope. Hope this helps or that you understand what I mean.
Brian
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