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jt512
Feb 2, 2004, 7:15 PM
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In reply to: Lynn Hill is the only one who can call "The Nose" a trad climb because she free'd every pitch on lead.
I disagree slightly. Once an aid route has been freed, I think that it is legitimate to refer to it as a free climb, or a "trad" climb, as Mike is using the term. I don't have to be able to free climb the Nose to recognize that it has now been established as a free climb.
-Jay
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mreardon
Feb 3, 2004, 1:07 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Lynn Hill is the only one who can call "The Nose" a trad climb because she free'd every pitch on lead. I disagree slightly. Once an aid route has been freed, I think that it is legitimate to refer to it as a free climb, or a "trad" climb, as Mike is using the term. I don't have to be able to free climb the Nose to recognize that it has now been established as a free climb. -Jay
It's all about the conversation between the people. I can just see it now. Ten pitches up and the trad leader finds himself in need of aid gear because of semantics....
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piton
Feb 3, 2004, 2:27 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Lynn Hill is the only one who can call "The Nose" a trad climb because she free'd every pitch on lead. I disagree slightly. Once an aid route has been freed, I think that it is legitimate to refer to it as a free climb, or a "trad" climb, as Mike is using the term. I don't have to be able to free climb the Nose to recognize that it has now been established as a free climb. -Jay
i disagree slightly. sure it has been free climbed but it doesn't mean that it is thought as a free climb now. most parties that climb the nose use points of aid. therefore for each individual it is different. for me the nose is an aid climb. whatever.
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matttheripper
Feb 13, 2004, 8:19 PM
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Sport v.s. Traditional. Who will win? Find out tomorrow on Rockcliming.com. It's like the grumpy old emotional trad climbers v.s. the cocky jock spandex wearing sport climbers. Lynn Hill is badass, so why are we disrespecting her by having her name in the title of this lame thread?
Just do your thing.
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dsafanda
Feb 13, 2004, 8:52 PM
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In reply to: most parties that climb the nose use points of aid.
Most?
Ummm....Yeah, like every single human being on the planet except one.
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jt512
Feb 13, 2004, 8:52 PM
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In reply to: Sport v.s. Traditional. Who will win? Find out tomorrow on Rockcliming.com. It's like the grumpy old emotional trad climbers v.s. the cocky jock spandex wearing sport climbers. Lynn Hill is badass, so why are we disrespecting her by having her name in the title of this lame thread?
Which brings us to our next controversial topic: Is disrespect a verb?
-Jay
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plund
Feb 13, 2004, 8:55 PM
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This thread still lives? Okay, I'll repeat a post & refer to the original post - is Scott Burke still climbing?
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bigdan
Feb 15, 2004, 8:33 AM
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In reply to: the Nose is a trad route, it takes gear. it is an aid route for 99.99% of the climbers in the world.
Some aid. The vast majority of Nose climbers free quite a bit. 2/3 of it is 5.10 or less.
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bigdan
Feb 15, 2004, 8:35 AM
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In reply to: is Scott Burke still climbing?
Yes. I've heard of him doing other cool stuff in the Valley. He's strong, but it didn't seem like he had it in him to send it in a push, nevermind a day.
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