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scottcody
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Ok, I know 1) there are a bunch of these threads 2) So. Cal is THE place to live and climb.
Having that been said, I'm looking for a "change" and some options.
The wife and I put together a list of places we would want live. On top of the list so far:
Reno/Carson City, NV
Flagstaff, AZ
Thousand Oaks/Simi Valley, CA (South Ventura Co)
Lake Forest/RSM, CA (South Orange Co)
We are looking for a place with little to no humidity, mild winter, not alot of rain, lots climbing within 3 hrs, lots of MTN. Biking nearby.... and most importantly some place that will put me to work. We are really skiers but, hey I'm game for new stuff.
We are looking to put our place on the market around June.
Where would you live?
Who would you want to work for?... I have a family to support so living out of the truck is not an option for another 15 yrs :D
Let me know
Thanks :)
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dbarandiaran
Mar 12, 2004, 7:32 PM
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i would say consider the boulder, CO area, lots of climbing within 1 hour, there is skiing during the winter, the winter is a bit cold at times, but not that bad really, and we get like 250 days with sunny skies a year. the job market is a little tight though, but there are jobs out there
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utahwiregate
Mar 12, 2004, 7:36 PM
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Scott,
Have you ever considered SLC? The only thing that wouldn't fit your criteria would be the mild winters, but it is a worthwhile tradeoff for the greatest snow on earth. Great climbing everywhere, exceptional MTBing, decent Job market.
Speaking of greatest snow on earth, it is time to go wax my board for tomorrow...
-Gate
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asandh
Mar 12, 2004, 7:44 PM
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tylerm
Mar 12, 2004, 7:54 PM
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You've got kids, so I'd bet every cent counts...the state tax situation out here in Nevada is great- therre is no state income taxes...last year I saved about $5,000 last year just by living on the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe instead of Cali ( I think they have a 9+% state tax)...it also meets all of your requirements listed-plenty to do around the lake and plenty of others within 3hrs (Bishop, Yosemite...) The only problem is you live in a casino town-and it has it's apparent drawbacks...other than that it's great!
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powpierre
Mar 12, 2004, 8:05 PM
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I can only speak for Reno/ Carson area as I currently live here in Reno. We certainly have mild winters with very few days with snow in the valley but great snow up in the sierras above town and Tahoe is an hour away. Climbing is about the same to donner summit and within 3 is touloumne, lovers leap, clark canyon , Bishop is a little further but climbable throughout the winter. It is a rapidly growing city as all of nevada is supposedly. We have no state income tax which is nice and UNR is in town. San Fran is 4 hours away so you can go there for culture. Housing isn't cheap but not outrageous either. People say it is a nice place to raise a family but I wouldn't know. It is a cow town which you may or maynot like. Work? What do you do? The largest manufacturer of gambling equipment is in town and they are always hiring engineers. Patagonia is also frequently hiring but it is a chance thing as we rarely advertise. Good luck
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hugepedro
Mar 12, 2004, 8:10 PM
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Scott, dude, Santa Fe, man. I'll be there next week. Spare bedroom. Climbing partner.
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micahmcguire
Mar 12, 2004, 8:13 PM
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eagle river alaska, if you can deal with the winters, its the best place on earth
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scottcody
Mar 12, 2004, 8:16 PM
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In reply to: hmmm ... Do you have a clue how expensive housing is in Southern California
It is why why we left in the first place... In hind-sight, we should of sucked it up and stayed.... but the resume is a bit better for the experience :)
I'm hoping the better resume will equate to a better job and more$$$ :wink:
It is very important for us to be close to places where we can "get away" and yet stay close enough to civilization that the dude (my son) has access to some "big city" things.... in a word "Balance"
3hr access World class climbing (yosemitie in one case, Josh in the other) is mandatory.
Boulder, CO is on the list, but Might be too cold for my sissy pants :D
But we are looking in to it...
SLC.... WAY TOO COLD :) the fact that you are waxing yer board for tomorrow makes me quake in fear.
This is great feedback.... anyone else
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scottcody
Mar 12, 2004, 11:30 PM
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So no one is going go to bat for for Flagstaff?
Any more suggestions on employeer's? The PM's have been great
Thank you all very much
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litleclimberchick
Mar 13, 2004, 6:20 AM
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i would live exactly were i am already living...socal. very little rain and i'm about an hour and a half from j-tree! :D
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moabbeth
Mar 13, 2004, 6:35 AM
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In reply to: We are looking for a place with little to no humidity, mild winter, not alot of rain, lots climbing within 3 hrs, lots of MTN. Biking nearby.... and most importantly some place that will put me to work. We are really skiers but, hey I'm game for new stuff.
Simi Valley/TO fits that bill. Depends on what kind of profession you're in as to whether or not the job market is out there. While SoCal is pretty expensive compared to some of the other cities you listed, you can still get some decent housing in Simi without going totally broke. Cause if you lived in that area
- no humidity
- mild winter
- lots of parks/outdoor areas to bike
- Mammoth Mtn about 5 hours away for good skiing, 2 1/2 hours to Big Bear down here.
The southern OC area is decent too with many of the same qualities but housing prices have REALLY run up there in recent years. We're talking $400K for a condo. OC has higher median housing costs than LA County (Simi) or Ventura County (TO)
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doktor_g
Mar 23, 2004, 3:04 AM
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Hey fellas,
I'm kinda trolling for this stuff myself. I'm definately considering Bishop, Boulder, Ft. Collins, SLC, Tucson etc.
Try one of these two: The first is the town that I just moved to. It's Klamath Falls, OR. If you're looking for world class climbing there's Castle Crags south of us for trad fun. There's Smith Rock to the north. There's a 30-60' foot crag 30 minutes to the north. Volcanic outcrops abound in Southern Oregon. The housing is SUPER CHEAP! I BOUGHT a 3-story stone house (front porch swing, garage, gym in the basement, built in 1920s the whole schpeel). There's no sales tax. There's a small four year technical college here, Oregon Institute of Technology. Some fun bars and we're surrounded in great ski areas. Great mountaineering peaks and if you want to get away, you can WALK for three hours from down town, not see anyone and be in danger of being eaten. So, why I am I looking? Multipitch trad is sorely lacking as are the big walls.
The second choice. Bend, OR. University town. Culture. Low crime. etc etc. MINUTES away from Smith Rock and surrounded by some of the best Cascade range skiing: Mt Bachelor and the Three Sisters.
I've got two more years here, then???? Bishop???
Grover
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alpinerock
Mar 23, 2004, 3:55 AM
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I would seriously consider alpine, Utah. AF canyon is only 2 minutes away, LCC and BCC are only 30 minutes away. Not to mention alpine has the second best mt. biking trails in the state after moab(i also know their good form personal experiance, as an avid biker myself)
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Mar 23, 2004, 5:44 AM
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Whatever you do, don't even consider Boulder, CO. Eldo is a treacherous 10 minutes from my place. The Flatirons and Boulder Canyon must be a 10 minute hike. Not to mention RMNP and Lumpy a whole 30 min. away. The skiing in Colorado sucks too. Boulder also has more sunny days per year than San Diego. I climbed in Eldo in mid Feb. in pants and a long sleeve capilene.
This place is right on the cusp of HELL!
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Mar 23, 2004, 5:48 AM
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I don't understand why you're not looking at Vancouver.. Whistler/Blackcomb for the best skiing/boarding in North America, Squamish for climbing, and the North Shore mountains for world class mountain biking. It's a mild climate, easy winters (we were climbing in Feb), the only thing is that it might be a bit more rain than what you want.. There are parks EVERYWHERE, and if you live half an hour outside of the city, living can be pretty reasonable.
Just a thought.
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ginerbiner
Mar 24, 2004, 4:34 AM
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Provence, France... Tuscany, Italy... Lisban, Portugal... great climbing, mountains all around, amazing culture for the kids, learn a new language, easy access to all of Europe. I'm working on my dual citizenship right now (dad is from Italy) so I can go and live if I wanted.
Live a little. Dare a little. Why the heck not?
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Mar 24, 2004, 4:45 AM
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Vegas:
-Climbing within an hour. Even more within 6 hours.
-Skiing within two.
-Big Walls within two and a half.
-Busy airport to get cheap tickets to anywhere (ever try to fly out of Reno?)
-$1.99 all-you-can-eat buffets.
-More Elvis impersonators than you can shake your hips at.
-Showgirls.
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chuckd278
Mar 24, 2004, 5:16 AM
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Boise, Idaho.
I know it's not the first choice on most peoples list, but if you want a lot of other things to do besides climb it's great. I'm not saying the climbing is bad here. It's better than most places I have lived, but with every outdoor wish all within 3 hours it's a nice and afordable place. The weather is not that cold in winter, but you do have a few cold snaps. The city is growing and the job market is good.
Chuck
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chanf
Mar 24, 2004, 5:56 AM
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being from so cal myself, i'll second vegas (after being here for 2 years): hot during the summer, cold in the winter. 4 inches annual rain total. humidity is zero-- probably negative, it's dry out here. the east coasters and hawaiians love it out here though.
although there's no state tax though, you pay for it in other ways (no good weather tax like california.)
if not vegas, i'd root for flagstaff, though i'd imagine flagstaff is more humid (which is bad, since i hear it is equally as hot and cold there as well).
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scottcody
Mar 24, 2004, 5:57 AM
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In reply to: I don't understand why you're not looking at Vancouver.. Just a thought.
Ummm cuz I'm not canadian :)
oh, and I really, really like the sun :D
In reply to: Multipitch trad is sorely lacking as are the big walls.
That is my true love, and being out here in flat a$$ texas is killing me.
It is looking like
Reno
Bay Area (might beable to swing a job transfer)
or Thousand Oaks (Please call Amgen... please call :))
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Apr 21, 2004, 11:03 PM
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i live in minden NV which is just south of carson city by 20 minutes and east of Tahoe by 20 there is no humity and the winter in the carson valley is real mild but were close to the mountains for skiing and rockclimbing
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Apr 21, 2004, 11:32 PM
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In reply to: Whatever you do, don't even consider Boulder, CO. Eldo is a treacherous 10 minutes from my place. The Flatirons and Boulder Canyon must be a 10 minute hike. Not to mention RMNP and Lumpy a whole 30 min. away. The skiing in Colorado sucks too. Boulder also has more sunny days per year than San Diego. I climbed in Eldo in mid Feb. in pants and a long sleeve capilene. This place is right on the cusp of HELL!
Yep! ( good man Jeremy, keep the word out and you can continue to stay here too.... ;) )
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Apr 22, 2004, 12:17 AM
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In reply to: hmmm ... Do you have a clue how expensive housing is in Southern California ?
Here here! I second that. I'm trying SO hard to get a job outside of fricken California...I'd take CA off the list if I were you unless you can fork out 400,000+ for a condo...
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rokstahr39
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Modesto CA... thats where I live and it's like 2 hours from anything! the beach, Yosemite, skiing, desert city,... whatever you want, you can be there in 2 or 2 and a half hours or less! It's great, and for the days you can't climb, theres a great climbing gym in town! I haven't lived here all that long, so I can't tell you for sure about humidity... I'm told it's dry in the summer. And as for winters, I think they're very mild... but then again, I'm from Wisconsin! I know it's not on your list... but it's a thought
Hope this helps!
Becky
PS: there's also Modesto Junior college... for the future obviously, at only $18 a credit!
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