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qpang


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This might seem like a funny question, but how do you coil cordelette to put on your rack. I've been trying to figure out the best way to wrap it up so it doesn't hook on things, and so it's still relatively easy to access and unwrap when needed. Any suggestions out there?


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I have a 20' cordlette. It is tied into a loop so the loop is about 9 ft across (2 ft are used for the knot and tails). I take this loop and double it so that I have 4 strands bunched together. Then I daisy chain these four strands as one. When I am done I tuck the tail through so it won't un tie itself. In the end it makes a small bunch about 8 inches long and it doesn't really catch on anything. Thats my way. It is also super easy to undo and it never tangles.

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I coil from both ends to the middle in a butterfly coil, then just wrap the middle around it a couple times and pass it through the loop, and it makes a neat little bundle that clips nicely to a biner and uncoils with a little flick.


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After posting this I was experimenting with a few different methods, and what I came up with is something just like you described coldclimb. I think this works quite well. Thanks for the advice everyone.


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Fold it in half, then in half again and again til its about a foot or so long. Then hold it at the ends and twist it into a ball and clip the ends with a big biner.
Realy easy and it unwinds quickly.


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Some great suggestions here but how would you stow a stiffy slippery tech cordelette?


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My solution is to hang it on a biner with the knot just below the bottom of the biner. Then I fold it in halves until the desired length, with the tops of each folded-up loop overlaying the knot. Finally, I slip a small rubber band around the knot and loops. When I need a cordelette, I just grab any part of it and pull, breaking the rubber band and releasing the whole thing. No one-handed undoing of tucked loops or anything.


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Some people fold it over several times and them tie it in an overhand. I like to wrap it around my hand and them use the last foot or so to wrap around the coil. Feed the bight on the end through one fo the loops then clip it to a locker you will use at your belay.


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For my stiff spectra cordalette I fold it in thirds, then double this so I have a coil that's 1/6 the length of the loop, then I tie this in an overhand and clip one end. It's not too bulky and relatively easy to get at.


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feeblesmith has the right idea. this is the my preferred way to carry a cordlette. i've tried all the others, and they all work, but i dont like a knot in it, and when i used to daisy, the damn thing would often work itself loose (unless i tied a knot in it, which i didnt want to do)...so, fold and twist!

oldsalt- quit littering the crags with your broken rubberbands. :roll:


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Totally agree, though it works best with webbing...

x


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Check out chockstone.org there is a diagram there that will answer your ?


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For my stiff spectra cordalette I fold it in thirds, then double this so I have a coil that's 1/6 the length of the loop, then I tie this in an overhand and clip one end. It's not too bulky and relatively easy to get at.

Ditto, and not too difficult to do one handed. I can tie up my cordolette in under a minute and get climbing after a belay changeover.


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What feeblesmith said. It is fast and easy to wrap and unwrap.

hellclimber


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http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p?t=14157&highlight=

Look under micronut's post. It's been awesome so far. Thanks again micronut.

Edit: Should read more thouroughly it the same thing as dredsovrn. Also I like this a lot better for techcord (Edit:Titan) than 7 mm. For 7 mm I either do the twist thing or loop it 5-6 times and throw it over my shoulder.


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oldsalt- quit littering the crags with your broken rubberbands.

Ouch! You are so correct. Fortunately, I had only broken any bands inside while practicing. I have switched to a heavier band which stays on the biner when I yank the coils out of it. I like my system and I Leave No Trace.


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oldsalt- fair enough. keep in mind, though, that you rarely are in a situation where you have only one hand available to work the cordlette (i actually cant think of any right now). so, while your method is interesting and quick, you still run the risk of severing that rubberband on the rock or gear while climbing....keep that in mind as you proceed with your outdoor climbing.


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My technique is a bit different from most folks here. I carry my 20' titan cord over my shoulder. After breaking down the anchor, I double the cord and tie a loose overhand towards one end. I then clip the two ends together and throw it over my shoulder. Even if it ends up under the rack, all I have to do is unclip the biner and pull. It's fast, easy, and I never have to search for it. The overhand is easy to untie, and keeps the loops even as I climb.

mark


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oldsalt- quit littering the crags with your broken rubberbands. :roll:

Look closer: Those aren't rubberbands...

yuck!

Brutus


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Personnally I use the old twisty rack. I triple it to make about a 3' long bunch, twist it and clip both ends into a fatty biner. A little smoothing gives a nice braid like look. The result is not too thick that it pisses you off when you smoosh it between your thight and the rock.


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