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thejew
Aug 5, 2004, 3:51 AM
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i am working on a series of designs for resedential and gym architecture that is either influenced or incorporates rock climbing. at the moment i am attempting to design my room so i will never have to touch the ground. i would like to use only basic climbing equipment, such as ropes anchors, belaying devices, and my harness. my idea is to open the door of my room, get in my harness, raise myself off the ground (aid climbing equipment) and move throughout my room to my bed, chairs, desk, couch, bathroom etc. and lower myself onto each area (still in my harness, therefore i am capable of just raisin myself when i would like to move). i would like this somewhat inspired by how many people travel throughout the canopies in the rainforest. as well as having this my room will have a bouldering wall on each wall and will have many harness hanging from the ceiling as chairs etc. the mode of transportation is priority and i must start assembling it by this weekend. any crazy ideas are welcome, thanks! p.s. this design will also be put to use on a larger scale in an old barn, which is being turned into a carraige house. - the jew
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neversurfaced
Aug 5, 2004, 3:58 AM
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Hey Jew, A couple of things come to mind: #1 – You’re single & will remain so for quite some time, #2 – You have way too much time on your hands Chad
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thejew
Aug 5, 2004, 4:05 AM
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chad - I'm in highschool, this is my summer break, so all i really am doing is surfing, climbing, and designing. i hope to be an architect, and i am submitting designs to many programs to get a head start, and i might as well spend my time climbing, and spending all of my time around climbing.
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hipdos
Aug 5, 2004, 4:15 AM
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This is a strange topic but I will do my best. How about a series of marginal aid placements down the hallway, then a portaledge set up in the bathroom, complete with poop tube? Is this the sort of idea you are after?
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thejew
Aug 5, 2004, 4:29 AM
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haha i like your portaledge idea, but remember im goign to just lower myself onto the object, meaning i can just lower myself on to the toilet. remember im going to have to be moving forward (throughout the room), not vertical (only vertical to raise and lower myself).
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indigo_nite
Aug 5, 2004, 4:49 AM
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umm, this sounds pretty crazy but it's an interesting problem nevertheless. if you set your room's floor level below your entry level, you don't have to raise yourself initially... if you have some kind of rolling tracks in the ceiling, and some kind of navigation system, you can just pull yourself to different areas... maybe work in some kind of tyrolean traverse (is that the right term?) to land on your bed (smoothly though)... good luck. post a picture.
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thejew
Aug 5, 2004, 5:31 PM
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what i think i could do is run 5 tyrolean traverses running in the same direction from one side of the room to the other, and i could just move down of the lines, clip myself into another, and then unclip myself from the original line, and so on. this would alway me to move around different parts of my room, but instead of doing it how a tyrolean traverse is usually done, do u think i could just do it in the sitting position and use an ascender or self belaying device to lower and raise myself?.
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pixelguru
Aug 5, 2004, 5:49 PM
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Oh how I wish I was back in high school again with the Summer "off". Ok. Sometime in the mid-80s, I accomplished something similar using a series of eyebolts screwed into ceiling joists, and small sections of plywood bolted to the walls with modular climbing holds attached to them. I had an awesoms hammock chair attached to one eyelet. The other eyelets had some webbing and biners attached to them, and if I stretched or swung, I could reach from one to another and get anywhere in my room without touching the floor. I could stay suspended almost indefinitely... until I had to pee. My parents decreed that I contain any structural changes to the house to my room and my room only... but I could swing out the door from a chinup bar for a graceful dismount.
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coylec
Aug 5, 2004, 6:13 PM
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A grid of eyebolts will be useful if you want to use an aid system for movement around your room. The tyrolean seems interestng as well (though the forces on the walls may be high (get the studs, eh?). You could use a pair of adjustable yates daisies for vertical progression and some ladders to stand on while you are suspended( and to give yrouself an easier time going up and down). coylec
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thejew
Aug 5, 2004, 8:19 PM
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thanks for everything guys.... more ideas would be useful... the ideas you've given me should work, but i would like more, so i can test them all
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indigo_nite
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something else occurred to me. I don't want to inhibit your creative process b/c it's important. however, you're sort of creating a problem for the sake of creating one. perhaps if you do this to present to others, you could create it as a hypothetical conditioning room for someone paraplegic (would they find this physically beneficial) or for phys. rehab...
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dredsovrn
Aug 6, 2004, 1:13 AM
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That's asinine.
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dutyje
Aug 6, 2004, 1:47 AM
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Build a circular track suspended from the ceiling that goes around the perimeter of the room, and then a pole extending down from the ceiling in the exact center of the room. The pole is able to rotate via some sort of a bearing. A horizontal bar extends from this pole all the way to the track, and is free to "roll" along the track as the pole at the center of the room rotates. Hang a harness on a pulley from this horizontal bar, and raise/lower yourself with the pulley. Secure yourself at the full height with a quick clip to a draw or something. When you're ready to lower yourself, unclip and lower away. Attack handles at the ceiling around the pole. Get in your harness and raise yourself to the bar. Traverse the bar to the pole at the center. use the handles to change the line that the bar is running to the edge of the circle. When your destination point is underneath the bar, traverse the bar to that point and lower. With this, you can visit any point in the three-dimensional space that lies underneath the area of the circular track suspended from the ceiling. Granted, this will miss the corners. Depending on the size of your room, this may or may not put you too far away from the edge. If you've got a huge room (you say you have a couch), it may keep you too far from the wall when you get to the corners. When you're ready to leave the room, go back to the center, point the traversing bar at the door, and traverse all the way to the end. Kinda like a really big manual drive ceiling fan in your room :)
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thejew
Aug 6, 2004, 3:37 AM
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dutyje - your idea is very innovative but the only problem is i feel it trails off too far from the them of climbing, using the rods, bearings, and tracks. if u have any other ideas, i would be very interested, because i like your train of thought. again, while your idea would be very beneficial and easy to make (my dad is an industrial designer and inventor), i feel it isnt close enough to the climbing theme. thanks again, and please give more more ideas! - the jew
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pawilkes
Aug 6, 2004, 4:06 AM
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does this remind anyone else of the Skytrack thing from American Gladiators?
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euroford
Aug 6, 2004, 12:15 PM
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this is why i'm a huge meis fan.
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dutyje
Aug 6, 2004, 1:12 PM
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Jew - Replace the rotating center pole in my idea with a three-point anchor and drop a cordalette with a biner. Carry a couple quickdraws on your harness (and the harness of anybody else in the room). Extend static line "spokes" from this anchor to the edges of the room (now you can even get to the corners). Keep the rescue pulley for raising and lowering, and use a daisy chain to fix your height. When you're ready to travel, attach one end of the draw to your harness, and the other end to the appropriate static line spoke. Unclip from the anchor and zip away. If you need to be able to raise/lower yourself, use the rescue pulley. If you hate the pulley idea, get an ascender and some aiders. You can even (in a similar concept to something mentioned by someone else) create several attachment points around the room and move them depending on where you want to go. Just zip down a line to retrieve a neighboring line, then bring it back to the center, reattach it and run it to another location (obviously you're limited with how far you can move the static line in any one trip).
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thejew
Aug 6, 2004, 1:58 PM
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Dutyje - your idea is even more innovative than the last, and i think it should work extremely well, and portray my idea better than i expected. i will buy the equipment and start assembling it by next week. i will send you pictures and, of course give youi credit. thanks again - Jew
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gumbobob
Aug 7, 2004, 12:34 AM
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hey--my two cents--after having worked big and small projects, construction, architecture, etc...forever (even though im only 22) loads in houses are very picky--whatever you would rig would have to (at the very least) sit along a support beam running through the ceiling...look at the live and dead weight loads for the trusses in your house...go up in the rafters and see how the roof is formed...this will: A) help you imagine how your idea will work B) the problems it might run into C) hands-on exp. in how a house works--look for ways in which the architect of your house made things turn out ok... hopefully you live outside of the cookie cutter architecture so prevalent in today's suburbs...then you can see real architecture... hope everything works out well
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thejew
Aug 7, 2004, 12:44 AM
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my father is anm industrial designer, therefore ihave a great ammount of background in the arts and architecture, and live 15 minutes from THE CITY, so i get to see a great variety of architecture. thanks for your input. - the jew
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keazah
Aug 7, 2004, 5:16 AM
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You really need to post photos of you're progress 'cause it sounds like a rad idea!
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