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treesail
Oct 14, 2004, 12:05 PM
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Posted on Thu, Oct. 14, 2004
GOP-paid firm faces voter-fraud charge
EX-WORKER SAYS HE SAW DEMOS' FORMS TRASHED
By Laura Kurtzman
Mercury News
Democrats in Nevada charged in a lawsuit Wednesday that a company paid by the Republican National Committee destroyed voter-registration forms they had collected from Democratic voters.
Similar allegations have surfaced in Oregon and West Virginia, where the group has been active.
The Nevada allegations were reported Tuesday night by KLAS-TV in Las Vegas about Eric Russell, a former employee of the Republican-funded group, Voters Outreach of America, which also goes by the names America Votes and Project America Votes.
In an affidavit filed with the lawsuit, Russell said he was told to ask prospective voters, ``Who would you vote for in the next election?'' He said he was told to register only those who supported President Bush.
``I personally witnessed my supervisor at VOA, together with her personal assistant, destroy completed registration forms that VOA employees had collected,'' said Russell. ``All of the destroyed registration forms were for registrants who indicated their party preference as `Democrat.' ''
Russell said he registered both Democrats and Republicans and, as a result, his pay was docked. According to the lawsuit against the Clark County Registrar of Voters, he provided copies of destroyed registration forms he retrieved from his supervisor's garbage can.
Russell repeated the allegations in a telephone interview Wednesday with the Mercury News.
GOP-funded outreach
Voters Outreach of America is run by Nathan Sproul, an Arizona GOP political consultant whose firm, Sproul & Associates, has been paid nearly $500,000 by the Republican National Committee to do voter outreach.
Sproul denied Russell's allegations in an interview with the Associated Press and said Russell was a disgruntled employee who had been fired. Sproul did not return calls from the Mercury News.
Wednesday, the Republican National Committee e-mailed affidavits from two people who worked at Voters Outreach of America denying any voter-registration forms had been destroyed. They said all forms were turned in to county recorders' offices or the Nevada Republican Party.
``The Republican Party has a zero-tolerance policy for anything that smacks of impropriety in registering voters,'' said Jim Dyke of the Republican National Committee. He accused Democrats of indulging in ``selective outrage'' that ignored wrongdoing by Democratic groups, but did not provide specifics.
Sproul's group also has been active in Oregon, where state officials Wednesday said they were investigating a man featured in a Portland television report saying he ``might'' destroy Democratic registration forms. It was not clear for whom the man worked.
Lawsuits alleging electoral irregularities also have been filed in Florida. Wednesday, the state Supreme Court heard arguments in a suit seeking to require election officials to count provisional ballots regardless of where they are cast.
Tuesday, unions and voting-rights groups sued to stop Florida officials from disqualifying more than 10,000 incomplete registration forms, accusing the state of overly restrictive rules that disproportionately hurt minority voters.
Manual recount issue
Also Tuesday, plaintiffs in another suit met with aides to Florida Secretary of State Glenda Hood to discuss how counties with touch-screen voting should conduct manual recounts. The state had banned recounts in such counties, but an administrative law judge, responding to a suit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups, threw out that rule in August.
Alia Faraj, a spokeswoman for Hood, a Republican who was appointed by Gov. Jeb Bush, said the lawsuits were politically motivated and were eroding voter confidence.
``They are questioning every single law that we are following and that we are complying with, federal or state,'' she said. ``And I think it's inappropriate for them to be doing this at the 11th hour.''
The lawsuit regarding voter-registration forms, filed in federal court in Miami, stems from Hood's recent recommendation to throw out forms on which registrants did not check a box indicating they are U.S. citizens, even if they signed an oath at the bottom of the form swearing they are.
It charges that while some registrants fixed their incomplete forms before the Oct. 4 deadline, elections officials did not always process them in time, and did not let other registrants know their forms were flawed. It charges Hood and elections supervisors in Broward, Duval, Miami-Dade and Orange counties with violating federal election law and the Voting Rights Act.
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The New York Times contributed to this report. Contact Laura Kurtzman at lkurtzman@mercurynews.com or (408) 920-5608.
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tgreene
Oct 14, 2004, 12:57 PM
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For every storey of the Republicans doing it, I can easily find one for the Dems as well... Voter fraud takes place on BOTH sides of the aisle, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
BTW: Did you happen to see where Kerry was giving campaign speeches in a Miami church on Sunday morning, during the regular worship service..? Not only is it ILLEGAL, but it's now being investigated by the IRS.
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treesail
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In reply to: For every storey of the Republicans doing it, I can easily find one for the Dems as well... Voter fraud takes place on BOTH sides of the aisle, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. BTW: Did you happen to see where Kerry was giving campaign speeches in a Miami church on Sunday morning, during the regular worship service..? Not only is it ILLEGAL, but it's now being investigated by the IRS.
Like the person in the article, you say the Dems are doing it too. & like the person in the article, you fail to give even a tiny example.
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bumblie
Oct 14, 2004, 1:20 PM
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How's this?
In reply to: Examples of an impending Election Day train wreck abound some twenty odd days out from November 2, that train being run by the party out of power. In Reading, Pennsylvania, Director of Elections V. Kurt Bellman told the Board of Elections this week that there have been flagrant attempts at voter registration fraud. "It's absolutely out of hand," Bellman said. "Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registrations but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations." Groups like the Association Communication Organization for Reform Now (ACORN), and the Citizens for Consumer Justice are both well connected to the Democratic Party and its agenda. ACORN claim's to have registered over 70,000 new voters in Pennsylvania this year. (www.pottstownmercury.com/site/news.cfm) Ohio is also investigating possible voter fraud in Hamilton County and Columbus. Again, the party to alleged fraud is ACORN. While the numbers to date of possible voter fraud are so far small, 19 registrations, the possibilities for many more are enormous. ACORN has registered over 1 million new voters nationwide, including some 158,000 in Ohio alone. (www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/08/loc_voters08.html) In St. Paul, Minnesota, a man who was pulled over by police was found to have some 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of his car that had been filled out, but never submitted. Once again, the liberal group ACORN is under suspicion. Since last fall, this group has claimed to have registered more than 36,000 new voters to the rolls of Minnesota. (www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/9863680.htm?1c) In Florida, investigators are now looking into widespread voter fraud in Miami-Dade, Duval, Monroe, Leon, Hillsborough and Pinellas counties. This from the Palm Beach Post: "Third-party groups, including tax-exempt organizations known as 527s that engage in political activity, have been conducting voter mobilization drives in an attempt to persuade new or apathetic voters to turn out in support of their causes — mostly Democratic — on Nov. 2." Not surprisingly, ACORN, as well as the 527 group Americans Coming Together, or ACT, is at the center of attention. These two groups alone have signed up an estimated 170,000 new voters in Florida. (www.palmbeachpost.com/.../m1a_elections_1007.html) In 2000, the most visible women besides then-Florida secretary of state Katherine Harris was Palm Beach County's one-time elections supervisor and butterfly ballot architect, Theresa LePore. Recently, she decided to accept 550 applications on behalf of a group of Muslims determined to oust President Bush. It made little difference that the deadline for registration had come and gone. (www.palmbeachpost.com/.../s1d_ELECT_1008.html) There are numerous other examples of potential, and real, voter fraud springing up around the country, all, naturally, in key battleground states. |
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treesail
Oct 14, 2004, 1:28 PM
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In reply to: How's this? In reply to: Examples of an impending Election Day train wreck abound some twenty odd days out from November 2, that train being run by the party out of power. In Reading, Pennsylvania, Director of Elections V. Kurt Bellman told the Board of Elections this week that there have been flagrant attempts at voter registration fraud. "It's absolutely out of hand," Bellman said. "Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registrations but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations." Groups like the Association Communication Organization for Reform Now (ACORN), and the Citizens for Consumer Justice are both well connected to the Democratic Party and its agenda. ACORN claim's to have registered over 70,000 new voters in Pennsylvania this year. (www.pottstownmercury.com/site/news.cfm) Ohio is also investigating possible voter fraud in Hamilton County and Columbus. Again, the party to alleged fraud is ACORN. While the numbers to date of possible voter fraud are so far small, 19 registrations, the possibilities for many more are enormous. ACORN has registered over 1 million new voters nationwide, including some 158,000 in Ohio alone. (www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/08/loc_voters08.html) In St. Paul, Minnesota, a man who was pulled over by police was found to have some 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of his car that had been filled out, but never submitted. Once again, the liberal group ACORN is under suspicion. Since last fall, this group has claimed to have registered more than 36,000 new voters to the rolls of Minnesota. (www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/9863680.htm?1c) In Florida, investigators are now looking into widespread voter fraud in Miami-Dade, Duval, Monroe, Leon, Hillsborough and Pinellas counties. This from the Palm Beach Post: "Third-party groups, including tax-exempt organizations known as 527s that engage in political activity, have been conducting voter mobilization drives in an attempt to persuade new or apathetic voters to turn out in support of their causes — mostly Democratic — on Nov. 2." Not surprisingly, ACORN, as well as the 527 group Americans Coming Together, or ACT, is at the center of attention. These two groups alone have signed up an estimated 170,000 new voters in Florida. (www.palmbeachpost.com/.../m1a_elections_1007.html) In 2000, the most visible women besides then-Florida secretary of state Katherine Harris was Palm Beach County's one-time elections supervisor and butterfly ballot architect, Theresa LePore. Recently, she decided to accept 550 applications on behalf of a group of Muslims determined to oust President Bush. It made little difference that the deadline for registration had come and gone. (www.palmbeachpost.com/.../s1d_ELECT_1008.html) There are numerous other examples of potential, and real, voter fraud springing up around the country, all, naturally, in key battleground states.
Much better. Who wrote it?
& in the article, what does "well connected to the Democratic Party" mean, exactly? Does it mean The DNC directly paid these people to do their dirty work, as did the RNC in Vegas and elsewhere?
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bumblie
Oct 14, 2004, 1:50 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: the numbers to date of possible voter fraud are so far small, 19 registrations Well, we'd better declare a state of emergency then. 19 registrations. Union and voting-rights groups had to go to court to stop 10,000 forms from being binned in a state that's working to ban recounts. You're comparing 19 suspected misdemeanours with 10,000? Nice going, you dunce.
Yet again, you show your talent for distorting the truth and missing the point of the post, which was to show voter fraud by Democrat groups.
The Florida story, regarding the 10,000 registrations, centers around illiteracy, not criminal intend. Too bad you don't see the distinction.
Why are you consistently so dishonest in your posts? I say dishonest because I doubt you are really that stoopid. :roll:
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tradman
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In reply to: Yet again, you show your talent for distorting the truth and missing the point of the post, which was to show voter fraud by Democrat groups.
And it did. 19 frauds. Opposed to 10,000 by republicans. The rest of the article just lists in shadowy terms how many voters ACORN has registered. And says they're "being investigated" or "under suspicion".
In reply to: I say dishonest because I doubt you are really that stoopid.
I'm flattered. I post the way I do in threads with you because you're an easy mark - you get upset and angry quite easily, then we can all laugh at your childish posturing. But don't worry, you're nowhere near as funny as Bluto.
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bumblie
Oct 14, 2004, 2:07 PM
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In reply to: And it did. 19 frauds. Opposed to 10,000 by republicans.
10,000 "frauds" by Republicans???
That's a stretch. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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bumblie
Oct 14, 2004, 3:09 PM
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Even though the source has a distinct bias, Drudge rarely (if ever) posts stories that are later proven to be false.
In reply to: XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 14, 2004 10:58:04 ET XXXXX KERRY/EDWARDS ELECTION DIRECTIVE: CHARGE VOTER INTIMIDATION, EVEN IF NONE EXISTS **World Exclusive** The Kerry/Edwards campaign and the Democratic National Committee are advising election operatives to declare voter intimidation -- even if none exists, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. A 66-page mobilization plan to be issued by the Kerry/Edwards campaign and the Democratic National Committee states: "If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a 'pre-emptive strike.'" |
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tradman
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Yup.
Dan Rather and CNS News have both confirmed this "world exclusive".
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thegreytradster
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There's a breaking story in Calif. that's on the radio that I doubt you will ever see in the LA Times. Seems some voters in Riverside Co. found that they were regestered multiple times with slight variations on their names, or they had non existent people supposedly living at their house. The list is up to at least 2000 with some preliminary checking.:roll:
Repeated complaints to the registrar got no action so they went public.
People paid to register voters in the predominantly Hispanic areas commonly tell illegals and legal resident aliens to go ahead and register because "nobody checks" These operations (paid registration collectors where they get $1-5$ per registration collected) are almost exclusively run / paid for by Democrats. The people standing in front of the grocery stores doing the collecting are only in it for the money and could care less about the legality of it.
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