The voice of the offended nOOb... :lol:

Anyone who hasn't climbed as long as jt512 is a noob.

As long as jt512 has?

I've climbed much longer than that n00b. :lol:

At some level of experience (ahem...age), this put-down becomes a compliment.

stfu, nOOb!

Why all the hate?

At some level of experience (ahem...age), this probably becomes a compliment.

Allow me...



You're welcome. :lol:

Sounds like a real life to me - I head out at every opportunity too: nevertheless, you, me & "oklahoma" should just face it. We're nOObs! Most especially because we're posting in a thread about nOObitude.

If you've been to the Wichitas I hope you noticed that not all Okies are as gumbified as "oklahoma" was being there. Don't know if he thinks he represents the whole state or what, but it's not like he lives in the Narrows or anything - he's got a 45 minute drive from beautiful Bartlesville to do his bouldering, so maybe he's sensitive about the no-rock-town issue.

ok so if ive been climbing less than 2 years (which i have) but have more hours climbing in less than 2 years than most people with 8years am i still a noob? i have over 15 first ascents(not including the attempts and projects im still workin), ive put up lots of new trad(nothin over 10a yet), aid(to a4) , ice (lead 4+) and alpine routes. and my home town is in the flatlands... still a noob? see i consider a noob to be someone who has/is nerver taken a fall under 10m, clips bolts all day and never aspires to be a"trad climber" cause its "dangerous"(not really climbing if you ask me!) someone who s never put in a sketchy piton,(just 1) then belayed from it. nver been caught in a blizzard well above the tree line. never run out a climb so far that any fall would be a factr2 death plunge, never jugged or fixed lines, rigged a haul, or even used a talon hook to be a noob! fuk years climbing experience determins youre place. some people can climb for years and still be 2 scared for me to not consider then NEW! most people that climb will forever be new to the sport because most are ill-informed and scared to trey to hard. 90% of what i know is self taught, from books and real experience.

However, I think that referencing book-learning as your evidence of knowing something well is unconditionally nOOb.

I love it...smart, very smart. I would say in a way we are all still "nOObs" to a degree. The difference is when you meet a gumby and you think you should beat their face in...you're a nOOb. A "nOOb" is when you meet a gumby and you have an automatic reflex to take your #4 Cam and slam it down their throat (literally, or metaphorically).

Wallress' Corollary to Ben's Theorem:

What?

I did not read the plethora of posts on this topic, so this may have been stated already, and if it has please excuse its redundnace. I remember reading a quote once that said that we should climb every day like it is our first day. I have always remebered this because of the caution and slow mental proccess that I used on my first day and every subsequent day. I was certainly a noob then and I will always be a noob, because it keeps my mind sharp, open, and most importantly it keeps me stoked on climbing. I think we are all noobs because the learning never stops for me. If I think I may know more than another person and then use that to categorize them and myself, the spirit of climbing would be lost for me. Praise the noobs.

Okay, I have been on RC.com for a few month now, and I usually just see what other people are saying than offering my opinion, but the above quote is the stupidist thing I have seen so far. Even someone asking what a belay device does is less retarded. Thanks.

hey thanks!
if you were actually a climber i might take that the wrong way, but since you cant speak from experience im sure you have every right to misjudge my post!, dude i suspect that if you had to choose between someone like myself who guides proffessional, climbs 5days a week and some sport climber who says"aid climbing whats that?" you hopefully would choose the sport climber cuz id rather not climb with people who do have a clue!

Ditch the whole "noob" concept. Elitism is all it is. Funny thing is, it seems to be propogated mostly by those with less experience. Everyone's a "noob" at something. Who cares how long someone has been climbing or at what level they climb - it's all in the attitude.

hey thanks!
if you were actually a climber i might take that the wrong way, but since you cant speak from experience im sure you have every right to misjudge my post!, dude i suspect that if you had to choose between someone like myself who guides proffessional, climbs 5days a week and some sport climber who says"aid climbing whats that?" you hopefully would choose the sport climber cuz id rather not climb with people who do have a clue!