amazing the best shoe ever or at least i think so. but i have only climbed in sportiva i dont know how other shoes feel but i must say out of the 4 pairs of shoes i have had they are the best. i think they are over priced but only because im cheap and didnt enjoy spending 160 on a pair of climbing shoes. but they are worth it. i would pay it again in a heartbeat. they were a bit uncomfortable in the beginning the only shoe that i have owned that had a toe pocket like them so it was weird. and they have really big archs which was very strange to get use to. but now they are very comfortable. i dont recommend them for beginners or anyone who is not sure if they want to stay with climbing. they fit amazing and there toe it just awasome.