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fadeux
Jun 24, 2004, 1:50 AM
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In reply to: Climb on, and remember: "It's a dry heat!"
So is a KILN....
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crimpandgo
Jun 24, 2004, 8:55 PM
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bighigaz,
That's a cool idea. I will check it out and add my 2 cents when I get a chance.
By the way, I am considering hitting Isle of you soon. Is it too hot this time of year down there? OR should I wait til fall.
p.s.
I did check it out. Looks good. Are you going to allow folks to add pictures of the described climbs? Helps to peak the interest of the reader.
thanks :D
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gds
Jun 24, 2004, 9:00 PM
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In reply to: By the way, I am considering hitting Isle of you soon. Is it too hot this time of year down there? OR should I wait til fall.
It's fine early in the morning. Sun will hit ~10:30 or 11 and it will be toasty from then on. Last summer we went there often when Mt Lemmon was closed and had nice climbing until almost noon.
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gds
Jun 24, 2004, 9:01 PM
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In reply to: By the way, I am considering hitting Isle of you soon. Is it too hot this time of year down there? OR should I wait til fall.
It's fine early in the morning. Sun will hit ~10:30 or 11 and it will be toasty from then on. Last summer we went there often when Mt Lemmon was closed and had nice climbing until almost noon.
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crimpandgo
Jun 24, 2004, 9:02 PM
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thanks gds.
I can climb in phx until about 10am if I want to suffer. In your humble opinion, Is Isle of you about the same tempurature? or cooler? I am assuming cooler but I dont want to haul my butt all the way down there to fry if you know what i mean.
Thanks again :D
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gds
Jun 24, 2004, 9:06 PM
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Lots cooler than Phoenix!!!
Its a lot higher - ~5000' if I remember and it cools down at night so morning temps in the shade are quite pleasant. After the sun hits I find that an hour is about all I want. So, if you start ~ 8 you can still have a nice 3-4 hours.
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anothertucsonclimber
Jun 24, 2004, 11:00 PM
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Hey, what's up with this new rock gym idea.....? You planning on competing with Rocks and Ropes?
BTW - Those names are weak.
Love,
Someone who loves rocks and ropes
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jumpingrock
Jun 25, 2004, 12:54 AM
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Woa... what happened? Why am I here? Who am I?
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bighigaz
Jun 25, 2004, 1:13 AM
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In reply to: Hey, what's up with this new rock gym idea.....? You planning on competing with Rocks and Ropes? BTW - Those names are weak. Love, Someone who loves rocks and ropes
The new rock gym idea... isn't very new. And yes, it is going to happen. You can check out the site now and again to see where we're headed. But don't worry about Rocks and Ropes, they are going to see quite a jump in business AFTER we come in. Thats the nature of supply and demand in a growing market!
BTW - Thanks for the feed back on the names, we need ideas from EVERYONE! Some people really latch on to the names we've thrown around, others hate them... Check out these links to give us direct feedback:
http://www.tucsonwallcrawlers.com/TucsonSurvey.html
http://www.tucsonwallcrawlers.com/CragHouseTips.html
We have some other names in the air, but they would reveal our location, so... you'll have to wait.
-Someone else who love Rocks and Ropes, but loves Tucson even more!
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climbsomething
Jun 25, 2004, 2:43 AM
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Dood, you're coming all the way to the Stronghold for... Isle of You? :shock: eh, whatever floats yer boat, I guess.
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missedyno
Jun 25, 2004, 4:23 PM
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crazylikeafawkes moved this thread from General to View this Website.
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crimpandgo
Jun 25, 2004, 7:39 PM
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climbsomething,
I am considering Isle of you because it has long bolted climb routes. I am not as familiar/comfortable with Trad so I am shy about hitting Cochise climbs. I have been to Mt. Lemmon. If you have other suggestions I would love to hear them. I don't mind mixed routes but must stay at low ratings for trad (5.7 down) until I get more experience.
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gds
Jun 25, 2004, 7:59 PM
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crimpandgo>
You are right, the stronghold is not the place for the 5.7 & below trad leader. Even the bolted climbs have runouts, route finding issues, and are almost always 5.8 and up.
The Isle of You is a good area for a day of sport climbing. But almost all the stuff there is 5.8 or harder with most being 5.10 or more. The one 5.7 route is IMHO a 5.8 so... .
personally I think you'd find more stuff on MT Lemmon or from the Phoenix area this time of yeara I'd head north to Flag
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sonso45
Jun 25, 2004, 8:26 PM
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How about Welcome to the Machine on the rockfellows in cochise? Can you climb there now? It was a bolted multi pitch line. I finished on the wrong way, went straight up the last pitch and found out later it traverses right. I was told it was totally bolted. That would be a fine long day. M
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climbsomething
Jun 25, 2004, 8:54 PM
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In reply to: climbsomething, I am considering Isle of you because it has long bolted climb routes. I am not as familiar/comfortable with Trad so I am shy about hitting Cochise climbs. I have been to Mt. Lemmon. If you have other suggestions I would love to hear them. I don't mind mixed routes but must stay at low ratings for trad (5.7 down) until I get more experience.
crimp:
As I have suggested elsewhere, Flagstaff is where you want to go, esp. this time of year. There is more variety and the quality of climbs is far superior there. The drive is the same as for Isle of You and will be a more rewarding time investment, since there's sport, trad and pebbles, of all grades and styles- you're far less likely to be disappointed or run out of stuff to do. Lemmon is also huge, so unless you've really combed the mountain top to bottom, I am sure there's lots of quality stuff you've missed. I can give more specific recommendations for Lemmon or Flag, esp. in moderate grades, if you're interested.
In my informed but nonetheless completely personal opinion, save Isle of You for when you've hit the bigger-name crags and are looking for random, quirky new crags without very high expectations.
Or, screw it, and just go to Isle of You and chase shade. You might really dig it. Different strokes. S'all good. AZ does have remarkable variety, so if you like delicate, slabby, edgy granite, you can enjoy that without going too far.
And hig- make it snappy! :) Rocks and Ropes is expanding into the suite next door as we speak.
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gds
Jun 25, 2004, 8:58 PM
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Rockefellows is still closed for raptor nesting. And it would be pretty hot up there now.
And I think that leading up there one should be pretty solid on at least a grade above the climb. These are back country climbs and even when bolted have an air of seriousness. This is not cragging.
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dorkyclimbinguy
Sep 9, 2004, 7:40 AM
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Great idea for a site... where's the listing for queen creek canyon? My home away from home? I'd have added it, but when i clicked on "add new area", nothing happened. people need to know about climbs like strawberry razzle tea and gigglin marlin...
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