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nateinva
May 9, 2004, 3:47 PM
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First post........
Just thought i'd show a pic of my new wall I built.
http://rockclimbing.com/...n=Show&PhotoID=31720
It's 10' tall and 8' wide. 100 sq. feet of climbing surface on the front(once I get the ply up). With time and money, i'll probably cover the whole thing. I'm in no way a carpenter, so you might see that if you look closely. I'll get more pictures on there this week when i'm closer to being done.
I know I like coming here and looking at people's pictures of their walls. Just thought i'd return the favor. Any input, give it.
Nate
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socalbolter
May 9, 2004, 4:21 PM
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looks pretty good.
just a few thoughts:
1) it looks like the 2nd truss from the left is not connected to the horizontal top member. it (and the others) should be connected to this as well.
2) you have three horizontal braces going back from the front surface to the rear of the wall. to complete a standard truss construction you should add diagonal support as well. at a minimum i would go from the point where the middle brace meets the front surface of the wall diagonally up and back to where the top brace meets the rear of the wall. this is more in line with the true force generated when climibing on the wall and will stiffen things up a bit when climbing on the wall. some may say it's redundant, but i think it's worth it to add on such a small wall.
3) also, given the nature of your wall i would sheet the inside of the side panels as well. all you would need to add is a few vertical studs and the framing would be done for this. it will get you some more terrain and offer different climbing options. also once sheeted, these panels would give you stiffer brace legs for the main wall.
have fun on your new wall.
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chizelz
May 10, 2004, 2:44 PM
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First of all great looking wall, it looks as though you have put in a lot of time and effort into this project. Well done!!!!
In reply to: edited for length..... 1) it looks like the 2nd truss from the left is not connected to the horizontal top member.
I agree unless the picture is really deceiving??? it looks as though the truss is short? If this is done intentionally to add a 3rd dimension to the overhanging surface, its a good idea, however the connection detail at the top may need some attention. My other comment would be on the truss spacing.... what is the current spacing of the truss members?? I would suggest keeping the members on 16" o.c. which would mean that you would need one more truss. It would provide a much stronger, secure frame for your plywood, stiffens plywood panels (especially on overhangs) and words out well for numerous t-nut patterns (if you decide to use a pattern)
In reply to: 2) you have three horizontal braces going back from the front surface to ...............add on such a small wall.
I agree for the price of a couple of 2 by's you can really beef up your wall, and sleep well under it at night. :wink: I would also add some horizontal bracing both along the back of your wall as well as through the middle members of your trusses, just to tie the whole thing together. The plywood will do its part on the face, but the back needs some bracing as well. I take back the comment about the brace on the back, as I look again at your pic, I see you have a diagional brace there. Good Job!!
In reply to: 3) also, given the nature of your wall i would sheet the inside of the side panels as well......once sheeted, these panels would give you stiffer brace legs for the main wall.
Great idea to expand your climbing surface using elements that need to be there anyway. If you don't decide to sheath the side walls, might I suggest that you also brace the front supports, brace them to the truses along the length, or to each other if you can work it not to interfere with your climbing. If your trusses are 2x6's (hope so) then the front supports look like 2x10's??? If it were my wall, I would feel a whole lot more comfortable with the supports (kickstands) braced, there will be a lot of weight being supported.
What is the connection detail to the 'foundation'?
again great looking project!!!
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nateinva
May 11, 2004, 1:49 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was talking aboot when I said I wasn't a carpenter. Thanks for the advice to "complete" the truss. And yeah, I had definitely planned on sheeting the sides and the back. There is just enough room between the shed and the wall to get some climbing in, though I do wish I had poured the concrete a few more feet away. It might not feel too good to hop down with some shingles scraping down my back. I'm getting the plywood Wednesday morning and most of it should be up by dark. I'll get a pic on here, as an update.
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the_antoon
May 11, 2004, 3:02 AM
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cool man...can't wait to see the finished product
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chizelz
May 12, 2004, 12:09 PM
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In reply to: I'm getting the plywood Wednesday morning and most of it should be up by dark. I'll get a pic on here, as an update. |
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overlord
May 12, 2004, 1:01 PM
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nice wall. just make sure you protect it from the elemnts.
also, why didnt you make it a bit more varied???
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nateinva
May 17, 2004, 10:53 AM
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Update.....
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...n=Show&PhotoID=32256
I got some more bracing on and a few sheets of plywood up. Did all this by myself. It rained yesterday and it'll probably rain on and off for a couple days, so i'll see what I can get done. Thanks again for all the feedback.
Nate
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overlord
May 17, 2004, 3:14 PM
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i hope you caovered it up when it was raining. plywood and rain dont mix.
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benmo
May 17, 2004, 3:53 PM
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plywood is fine as long as you have 3/4" treated plywood.....not cheep.....30$ per 4'/8' sheet not to mention all of the other treated wood you need to buy if it is a outdoor wall. oh and another thing make shute you get bolts and t-nuts that dont rust.....i hate sawing them off
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chizelz
May 17, 2004, 4:53 PM
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Lookin' good Nate, that is quite the undertaking by yourself. You must have had fun placing the sheet on the overhang by yourself? :shock: I also see that you couldn't wait to get some holds on there to try er' out. How'd it feel?, solid?, shaky? Good to see you added all the suggested braces. Looking at the most recent picture, it now looks like the 'short truss' has been fixed and now connected to the leading edge horizontal blocking.... how was this connection made??? Is it solid??? and I don't mean to pic on your carpentry skills, (please don't take it personally) it is still quite impressive for you to take on by yourself. The second truss... (the one that was short) appears to be on an angle or not perpendicular to the face of your wall??? it could be the picture?? If you braced the hell out of it probably not a big deal, but I would suggest straightening it if you can. What if any, did you use for a t-nut pattern?? Are you planning on some sort of roof over the whole thing?? Because of the angle rainfall will carry down the back of your wall into all your t-nuts and bolts, and plywood. Treated plywood is one thing, but I believe you will find that just the extremeties of the plywood are treated, once you cut it (or drill it for t-nuts) you expose the untreated core. At least the treated plywood 'round these parts'. You could fairly innexpensivly add a roof component to help extend the life span of your wall.
Lookin' good!!!!! Keep the pics comin'
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the_antoon
May 17, 2004, 8:42 PM
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awesome...keep em comin!
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dredsovrn
May 17, 2004, 9:03 PM
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That looks great. I put a lot of work into my indoor wall this winter. I got lazy and put a bunch of screw on holds under my deck for the summer. Your wall should be fun. Up the committment level and line the ground underneath with pointy rocks and broken glass. :shock:
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wyattearp
May 17, 2004, 9:13 PM
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Yeah dude put a roof onthe wall or ints gonna twist and turn to no end, Treated or not, if it rains its gonna warp, alot of the treated woods, are used for termite use, unless your are using ADX Lamintaed Wood, or high quality Outdoor, be careful, its also good cause you can top out on YOUR BOULDER!
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nateinva
May 18, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Here it is....
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...n=Show&PhotoID=32456
Put up a roof and got the last panel on the face. Oh, and i've got some tarps(not pictured) secured under the frame of the roof that drop down to the ground so no rain gets in there. You can see the flaws, as many of you have:), but it's sturdy as hell. I'm actually suprised how well it turned out. Gotta get tons more holds, so there's more $$ I gotta spend. But it'll be money well spent. I gonna take a break for a while, adding stuff on, so i'll post some updates down the road. Thanks for all the input.
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chizelz
May 18, 2004, 1:55 PM
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GREAT JOB!!!!! it looks great Nate!!!!! It really did turn out well, and I believe you did say that it was sturdy as hell!!! That wall would 'waffle' you for sure if it came down :shock:. Nice touch with the translucent roof!!! For "not being a carpenter" it turned out well! Now comes the daunting task of acquiring a boat load of holds..... GL!!
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overlord
May 18, 2004, 2:03 PM
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looks great. id sugges protecting the sides a bit as well if the wind blows during rain.
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the_antoon
May 19, 2004, 3:08 AM
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dude...looks great. I want to try it out :D
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