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indyclimber
Jan 21, 2004, 7:04 PM
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alright heres the deal. were moving and im getting the storage area above the garage to have a climbing gym :D . my dad wants to know if he can have it insulated (with paper cover) and then i can put the plywood up. will this affect anything? i think not but it doesnt hurt to ask. thx matt
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voriand
Jan 21, 2004, 7:13 PM
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Only going to affect the temperature of your climbing environment.
Insulate away.
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indyclimber
Jan 21, 2004, 7:23 PM
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alright thanks for the post it helped alot
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josephine
Jan 21, 2004, 7:26 PM
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josephine moved this thread from General to Indoor Gyms.
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overlord
Jan 21, 2004, 7:44 PM
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i second "no effect". also tell your dad that your gym will provide a little extra insulation (floor padding) and maybe you can squeeze some extra $$$ for holds and/or padding.
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lancebrock
Jan 21, 2004, 7:59 PM
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it actually might hurt things guite a bit. make sure you keep the attic vented. not sure about your neck of the woods, but in tennessee attics are meant to have air circulating through them to allow moisture to escape. the insulation is typically on the ceiling, not the roof. same thing with a crawl space. if it is vented (you can tell by where the current insulation is placed and whether there are vents in the eaves and on the ridges or gables of your house) and you put up insulation and plywood, you will need some baffles to allow air to circulate between the insulation and the underside of the roof system. if you dont do this, moisture can get trapped in there and everything will rot and mold. e-mail me if you have any questions or go to a local home depot or hardware store and ask.
good luck. sounds like fun!
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wideguy
Jan 21, 2004, 10:21 PM
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Also keep in mind that the paper over insulation is supposed to act as a vapor barrier. If you start poking alot of holes in the paper facing with screw heads from hold you are defeating that purpose. You don't want moisture getting into your insulation.
Just another thought.
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andy_reagan
Jan 22, 2004, 1:27 AM
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In reply to: the insulation is typically on the ceiling
The roof on my house (the attic's ceiling) is insulated as well as the house's ceiling (the attic's floor). It gets REALLY hot in the summer though and REALLY cold in the winter.
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lancebrock
Jan 22, 2004, 4:53 AM
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what gets really hot and cold, the attic or your living space? if you mean the attic, then that is what you want. if you mean your living space, well, then i'm surprised.
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andy_reagan
Jan 22, 2004, 2:51 PM
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first one, right I dont see much problem with it except that I ruled out building a gym there right away cause I'd have to do some pretty big overhauls to it to get the environment friendly enough to want to remain there 3-4 hours at a time. Plus I dont know if its such a good idea to be taking hard falls in attics, I could imagine bits of plaster spraying everywhere off of my bedroom ceiling everytime I fell... :roll:
Sorry for the slight hijack :oops:
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okc_discgolfer
Jan 22, 2004, 3:09 PM
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are you refering to the "denny board" (only name i know it by) sorta like a peice of cardboard but very ridgid???
if so....it will be fine..just leave about an inch or two at the top to allow any seapage that come thru the roof to evaporate
i build homes and we use that stuff in the hot water closet. as the guy said b4...it provides a water barrier.
as far as ventilation in the attic....yes it is important as well. BUT....most building codes require vents in the sophit (unless it is on a gable...then it is useless)every 8 foot for ventilation(new codes anyhow, older allow them to be spread out more...and some old codes dont require them....long story short...not too many cliped ceilings back in the day)
if this area is going to be over the garage for the most part...(under that assumtion that u have pull down stairs for your attic access) u can put full sheets of 1/2 inch ply wood over any exposed ceiling joist to creat more floor space for your gym. you can also build a "pony wall" on top of existing wall and run it all the way to the roof. the u could simply put foam sheathing on the said wall to completly seal it off from the rest of the house. unless your home has a working fan in a gable vent it will not hurt the breathablity of the roof....as for my qualifications ....im a frame carpenter and can build a house from a pile of wood.....if you have any ?'s about how to frame in the area...please feal free to contact me..
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lancebrock
Jan 22, 2004, 4:20 PM
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sounds like he was talking about putting up insulation between the rafters like you do in a wall. unfaced (fuzzy) side in the wall and faced (paper) side facing the room. that would be a problem because there may not be enough ventilation to keep the moisture out. they specifically make things for this called baffles. the ventilation is very important.
as for my qualifications, i am a licensed architect and can draw a building from a bunch of lines... :wink:
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