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avenfoto
Jan 17, 2006, 7:57 PM
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so... this is to be my first highline setup, and will attach a sketch to help explain what i mean...
have 2 trees, 'bout 40 feet apart.. the line will be 25ft off the deck, but instead of tying into the line (will only be using one length of webbing)
i wanted to rig a cable 6ft above the line, to clip into if solo, or to run a belay through if two or more participants...
what i need to know, is the best way to rig the cable, or anyother advice..
as far as tensioning the cable, how tight should it be? what if i use webbing between the trees and cable to allow a bit of stretch during falls?
best way to anchor end?
im looking for help here, and quality advice, not "dont do it, you might die"... ill do it the hard way if i have to....
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veganboyjosh
Jan 17, 2006, 8:41 PM
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In reply to: but instead of tying into the line (will only be using one length of webbing)i wanted to rig a cable 6ft above the line, to clip into if solo, or to run a belay through if two or more participants...
rigging the line the right way in the first place will keep you from having to fuss with a cable and pulley etc...it will be cheaper as well.
you shouldn't be out there by yourself, should something catastrophic happen, what then? the line/cable breaks, you're hanging tangled in the line, and can't get out, etc... this is why there are partners, and why we don't do what we do without them.
and as for rigging a top rope to belay from, why not just leash in from the start? falling on a top roped highline is not gonna teach you to fall correctly on a correctly rigged line. it's like learning to lead fall on top rope. it's similar, but it won't teach you what you need to know.
sorry this is so negative.
it sounds like you should do some more research. i know that's what you're attempting with this thread, but your questions indicate to me that you have more reading to do.
also, post some pics if/when you get it going.
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slacklinejoe
Jan 17, 2006, 8:51 PM
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In reply to: and as for rigging a top rope to belay from, why not just leash in from the start? falling on a top roped highline is not gonna teach you to fall correctly on a correctly rigged line. it's like learning to lead fall on top rope. it's similar, but it won't teach you what you need to know.
I agree with almost everything you said except recommending him to start off leashed to main line on this setup. He said He'd only be 25 feet up, if it's a very long or loose line, has a long leash or over-estimates the height he could deck in the middle on a leashed fall. Obviously, this depends on the setup before making a recommendation like that.
Personally I don't see anything wrong with an overhead line while learning, but I wouldn't consider it a true highline but more of a top roped style low-midline. Then again, in Florida he might not have much of a better option to rig higher up.
To the OP: you might find this at least of some use: Mini-Article on Highline Rigging
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veganboyjosh
Jan 17, 2006, 8:55 PM
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In reply to: He said He'd only 25 feet up, if it's a very long or loose line he could deck in the middle. Obviously, this depends on the setup before making a recommendation like that.
good point. this would also be one of the cues i took when saying he needs to do more research.
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climbinhigh18
Jan 17, 2006, 9:53 PM
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So unfortunately there is no possible way i can explain the correct way to use;a drill, threaded eye bolts, thimbles and other minimal hardware, some salted pretzels for your cable. All from an arborist supply store b/c id feel bad if you did it the wrong way 8^).So buy the book and yep, do more research. Its been fun this year slackin at school and i know of the potential to find yourself in the wrong position while takin a whipper off the line. And after some good pointers from the crew... raise the line for groundfall purposes and then go for the no toprope send. oh ye, and stay away from riggin with monocots, woody stemmed trees with an interior xylem for support are def preffered. ciao
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coldclimb
Jan 18, 2006, 6:33 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: and as for rigging a top rope to belay from, why not just leash in from the start? falling on a top roped highline is not gonna teach you to fall correctly on a correctly rigged line. it's like learning to lead fall on top rope. it's similar, but it won't teach you what you need to know. I agree with almost everything you said except recommending him to start off leashed to main line on this setup. He said He'd only be 25 feet up, if it's a very long or loose line, has a long leash or over-estimates the height he could deck in the middle on a leashed fall. Obviously, this depends on the setup before making a recommendation like that. Personally I don't see anything wrong with an overhead line while learning, but I wouldn't consider it a true highline but more of a top roped style low-midline. Then again, in Florida he might not have much of a better option to rig higher up. To the OP: you might find this at least of some use: Mini-Article on Highline Rigging
Not a bad article Joe. :)
As for not leashing at 25 feet, I dunno. When I rigged a "high"line here in AK this summer, is was only about twenty feet over a creek, there was ample room for the leash to catch. You can see the whole scenario in this picture. So my advice to the OP is to get highline instruction from someone who has rigged them before, and then and ONLY THEN, go for it! I've rigged highlines in my backyard, and it's a lot of fun! :D Now you've got me psyched up to go out and rig one. :lol:
As a side note, the guy in that pic DID somehow flip upside down and smack his head on the rock wall immediately after that pic. DO be careful. ;)
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