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coastal_climber
Dec 29, 2010, 9:50 PM
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He looks so out of place at a crag
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adam14113
Dec 29, 2010, 9:53 PM
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I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys
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majid_sabet
Dec 29, 2010, 9:59 PM
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if I see one fixed on any wall, I will take it and there is not a dam thing you can do about it.
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bill413
Dec 29, 2010, 10:22 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: if I see one fixed on any wall, I will take it and there is not a dam thing you can do about it. |
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bill413
Dec 29, 2010, 10:23 PM
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adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys
I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft.
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adam14113
Dec 29, 2010, 10:27 PM
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In reply to: at the thief's unconcern about theft
no kidding, I heard gingers have no soul
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majid_sabet
Dec 29, 2010, 10:28 PM
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bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft.
taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
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Gmburns2000
Dec 29, 2010, 10:55 PM
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wow, it's OK to take draws in the Springs!!! I know where my new rack is coming from now!
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kovacs69
Dec 29, 2010, 10:57 PM
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Way too nice to the guy!!!
JB
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sp115
Dec 29, 2010, 11:00 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
So by that logic if you park your car (or yak, in your case), illegally, I can take it?
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coastal_climber
Dec 29, 2010, 11:02 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
Your just saying the same shit you did on supertopo
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kovacs69
Dec 29, 2010, 11:12 PM
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coastal_climber wrote: majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber. Your just saying the same shit you did on supertopo
Well at least he hasn't drawn us a picture yet...
JB
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majid_sabet
Dec 29, 2010, 11:17 PM
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sp115 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber. So by that logic if you park your car (or yak, in your case), illegally, I can take it?
read the congress wilderness act (1960s) .
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leapinlizard
Dec 29, 2010, 11:18 PM
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sp115 wrote: So by that logic if you park your car (or yak, in your case), illegally, I can take it?
If it sits there long enough you can. Salvage Title. Got a nice little 40mpg car that way once.
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majid_sabet
Dec 29, 2010, 11:20 PM
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coastal_climber wrote: majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber. Your just saying the same shit you did on supertopo
I never talked about this on ST cause those guys know the law .
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gosharks
Dec 29, 2010, 11:39 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: sp115 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber. So by that logic if you park your car (or yak, in your case), illegally, I can take it? read the congress wilderness act (1960s) .
Since when is Smith Rock a wilderness?
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sp115
Dec 29, 2010, 11:43 PM
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leapinlizard wrote: sp115 wrote: So by that logic if you park your car (or yak, in your case), illegally, I can take it? If it sits there long enough you can. Salvage Title. Got a nice little 40mpg car that way once.
They weren't abandoned, they were on a route that was actively being worked on. The owners of the draws were known, they were safe to climb on. The ethics of the area dictate that leaving draws is an acceptable practice.
The world is a better place with people like the ones who found him handling the situation calmly. But I still wish he left wearing nothing but his underwear.
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moose_droppings
Dec 29, 2010, 11:51 PM
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Should of known he was a thief, he racks his draws gates out.
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John5
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should of cut his beard and made him eat it
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bearbreeder
Dec 30, 2010, 2:36 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
mmmmm ... come do that at squish mista majid ... we canucks are REAL nice to people from whateverstan yr from
we wont do a thing to you .. really
well just belay you on that 5.7 route you can barely do halfway and leave ya hanging for one of our cute cudly squishy bears as a pinata
hes never hurt you ... honest ... he just wants to hug you for taking his draws ... lol
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crazy_fingers84
Dec 30, 2010, 2:52 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
That isn't why fixed gear is unsafe, it is a reason why it could potentially be unsafe.
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bill413
Dec 30, 2010, 3:24 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber.
While the thief claimed they were "unsafe" and "badly worn" - they were not. The people who were working that route knew the draws and their history. The thief claimed that (apparently) all the draws on the route were unsafe, but the anchor biners were fine. There was a little discussion there where the owners pointed out that carabiners were normally shaped like the ones that were being stolen. Maybe he mistook bent gates for damage?
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crazy_fingers84
Dec 30, 2010, 3:29 AM
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bill413 wrote: Maybe he mistook bent gates for damage?
I somehow doubt that. It seems like the thief knew exactly what he was doing and he was just trying to cover his ass. That is, until he realized he was talking to the owner's of the gear.
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majid_sabet
Dec 30, 2010, 6:47 PM
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bill413 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: bill413 wrote: adam14113 wrote: I wouldn't have been as nice as those guys I was amazed at how civil they were to him. And, at the thief's unconcern about theft. taking a draw is not against law. in fact it is against the law to leave pieces on the wall and I do not understand why lazy sport climbers have to leave their unsafe draws on every wall.loose some of those fat pounds out of your love handles and carry six freaking draws on your harness and clip and clean it after you are done.And those draws are unsafe cause you do not know how many people have taken a fall on them and one of these days, one will break and kills a climber. While the thief claimed they were "unsafe" and "badly worn" - they were not. The people who were working that route knew the draws and their history. The thief claimed that (apparently) all the draws on the route were unsafe, but the anchor biners were fine. There was a little discussion there where the owners pointed out that carabiners were normally shaped like the ones that were being stolen. Maybe he mistook bent gates for damage?
ok, well let's say I ended up in the area and somehow I climbed and took a fall where I broke one of those biners.Do local climbers who know the history will take the responsibility if got hurt ?
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