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Poll: Half Ropes vs Single Ropes
Single, always. 8 / 38%
Half Ropes, Always 9 / 43%
Half Rope, if with a party of 3 2 / 10%
Single with party of two, half ropes with party of 3 1 / 5%
Twin Ropes 1 / 5%
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alleyehave


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On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?


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trad_kid


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I prefer halfs but am too cheap to buy them.


climbingaggie03


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Single 8.9-9.1mm it's light, and light is right.


hafilax


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alleyehave wrote:
On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?
Is the descent by rappel?


sspssp


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alleyehave wrote:
On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?

I usually prefer a single, half rope.


billcoe_


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hafilax wrote:
alleyehave wrote:
On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?
Is the descent by rappel?

ding ding ding ding ding...we have a winner.


mattb1921


Sep 22, 2008, 9:25 PM
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billcoe_ wrote:
hafilax wrote:
alleyehave wrote:
On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?
Is the descent by rappel?

ding ding ding ding ding...we have a winner.

When on a long route I always used to like to use half ropes just because they are light and if I had to bail I already have a second rope with me. As I started to climb with different people I started running into people who just are not as good with rope mangement with two ropes and things slowed down. So now I use a 9.5single and bring along a 7m line if I have to rap or no second if I don't see needing to rappell.


sungam


Sep 23, 2008, 12:02 AM
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billcoe_ wrote:
hafilax wrote:
alleyehave wrote:
On your average alpine route, with a little bit of wandering but not too excessive, what do you prefer?
Is the descent by rappel?

ding ding ding ding ding...we have a winner.
And does it cross a glacier?
How hard is it? Will I even need a rope?


chris


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Well, from some of the responses you can gather that part of the answer is "it depends."

And it does, no doubt.

But I usually climb with a single rope - the skinniest single-rated rope I can find - 60 meters long. This is my "standard" rope, that I wear out the quickest and replace most often.

I have other ropes for those exceptions - but I do have a standard rope for a standard day.

Chris


altelis


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normally a skinny single. if there is the possibility of hanging pack over difficult terrain and/or it is a rap off i will also bring a 7mm static tag/rap line.

and careful with doubles on a party of three- make sure you take all bends/edges into consideration seeing as each second is only on ONE 1/2 rope. yes, the rope can take the load but not necessarily the edge wear....esp on hard rock like granite! i seem to remember an accident at cathedral ledge many years ago that was the result of a second taking a fall on a single strand of a 1/2 rope, the rope was pulled tight over a small but sharp ledge and the rope was cut. that being said, i heard all this like quadruple hand, so i've always taken it more as an legend than an accident.....Unimpressed


alleyehave


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altelis wrote:
normally a skinny single. if there is the possibility of hanging pack over difficult terrain and/or it is a rap off i will also bring a 7mm static tag/rap line.

and careful with doubles on a party of three- make sure you take all bends/edges into consideration seeing as each second is only on ONE 1/2 rope. yes, the rope can take the load but not necessarily the edge wear....esp on hard rock like granite! i seem to remember an accident at cathedral ledge many years ago that was the result of a second taking a fall on a single strand of a 1/2 rope, the rope was pulled tight over a small but sharp ledge and the rope was cut. that being said, i heard all this like quadruple hand, so i've always taken it more as an legend than an accident.....Unimpressed

Good point.

 

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