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wildabeast
Jul 14, 2002, 5:31 AM
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Hey, I just climbed for the first time and it was addictive. So since i'm addicted, and i'm starting to get into this sport more and more, I need equipment. Can anyone detail the type of gear i'm going to need, i'll mostly be indoors until I get better, but I have some friends who love to climb, so i'm sure i'll be on some god forsaken cliff soon enough. But the thing is, i'm kinda big, I have a size 15(USA)tennis shoe, i'm about 6'1", and 250 lbs. Will this be a problem? I know there must be thicker guys out there, but what about the shoes? Any help will be much apreciated, and thanks in advance!
-Will
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bouldertoad
Jul 14, 2002, 5:55 AM
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As far as gear goes that should not be a problem ie..harnesses etc.. but he shoes may be more of an issue. I have seen up to size 13 in most major brands so you might have to go with a smaller shoe which will be hard at first but as most regular climbers know 2 sizes down from your street shoe is not uncommon. I can just about guarantee that no one will have that size shoe in stock thouhg. Maybe try renting some shoes at the gym, they might have something big enough for you to try out.
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pbcowboy77
Jul 14, 2002, 3:57 PM
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I just saw that Five Ten makes up to a size 14, but you want to go atleast one size down from your street shoe. What you might have to do is go to your local pro shop and special order them. Also check out web sights. I'll check into this a little more for you and try to get back to you.
O.K. so I found shoes for you... scroll to the top of the page and click on gear, that will take you to mgear.com. I checked out all the Five Ten shoes and most of the lace ups had sizes up to 14 and the Zlipper has size 13. check it out,oh and Five Ten makes thier shoes a little wider than the other shoes I've used and since I'm not to small myself it helped. Good luck and the rest of the gear should be easy to find.
Oh and if you want to know what you need to start:Shoes, Harness, Belay Device, Locking Biner, Chalk Bag with chalk. Then after that when you go outside you'll start to see what you need when you start leading
Climb safe and don't drive angry
-Zac
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wildabeast
Jul 14, 2002, 4:17 PM
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Thanks for your help, I did stop by my local pro shop, Midwest Mountaineering and they had a size 14, but I forget what brand they were. Might have been 5 10's. The 14s were fine, i'm told the shoes are supposed to be tight, and that they are. They also had all kinds of harnesses and ropes and stuff, any good brand names I should look for? Also, what are those things used for bolaying? I'm sure they have them I just don't know what to ask for. Thanks again for your help on this! This sport really is addictive though, I found myself oggling the back wall of my house, it's looking just about climbable if I spend some more time at the gym
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need_for_climbing
Jul 14, 2002, 5:33 PM
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Slow Down dude. U said that u wanted to buy equipment for outdoor climbing. My Advice on shoes is that u get 2 size or 1 1/2 size smaller. Trust me 1 size is not quite enough , Moreover on boulder walls or big walls. Secondly i propose u start learning ur techniques and build up ur edurance (I MEAN IT) big walls need endurance.If u doing bloudering with experience climbers thats great. For mi saftey comes first in outdoor. Cause ur sure far away from a hospital or clinic...
Equipments for outdoor bloudering....
Crash pad..
Chalk Bag..
Rock shoes.
and first aid kit
u will never know what can happen.
Equipment for bigwalls....
Unless u have learnt how to lead i suggest u leave BIG walls aside first..K
Hope i dun sound like a old hag. Heehee
Rock On
Chris
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wildtrail
Jul 14, 2002, 5:53 PM
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You can special order shoes of that size. The only problem is that they first set or two may not fit properly and may have to be sent back. Eventually, they'll get it right and you'll have yourself a shoe. Call the manufacturers, Black Diamond (Scarpa), La Sportiva, Boreal, etc. Or contact them via their websites.
Steve
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jt512
Jul 14, 2002, 6:23 PM
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I did stop by my local pro shop, Midwest Mountaineering...
This belongs in the oxymoron thread.
-Jay
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wildabeast
Jul 14, 2002, 9:24 PM
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Something I should know about Midwest Mountaineering? Or are you just saying that the name itself is an oxymoron? Also, will outdoor shoes also work indoors? Thanks
-Will
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kevlar
Jul 15, 2002, 10:08 PM
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First things first...get out of the smelly gym and stay outdoors and enjoy fresh air and sunshine...find you someone to mentor you on the rock. Someone with knowledge of climbing an who has gear that is worn..."NOT WORN OUT !!!" and learn from them. You will learn from doing and doing safely...ad gear as you see it used ...that is gear beyond the basics...(which has been mentioned already)...and when you can afford it...Now if you are wealthy you can buy a complete set of gear " leaders pack " from climbing sites on the web...but it does you no good to get it if you don't know how to use it...
P.S. if you do get above gear...please be careful and enjoy the sport
Happy climbing...john
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detourdave
Jul 17, 2002, 7:19 PM
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Beware super tight shoes. I let a friend talk me into buying my first rock shoes 2 sizes too small because they should be "really tight". Well, when I had all my toenails amputated after the first big day out (not really but it felt like that), I went out and bought a "slightly larger size". Then I realized that I do enough multi-pitch adventure trad climbing that I really should be wearing thin socks rather than none at all, but then my shoes wouldn't fit. OK, third pair of shoes. They fit with socks and they were still tight so I wet them down and wore them around the house (with socks) until they dried. Ahhhh, perfection. I still feel the burn after several hours in them but they don't cut off the circulation in my feet either. Summary: Buy shoes that fit (with socks unless you want to start a mushroom farm in your shoes, that is however, a matter of preference) but not too tight. You will have an epic climb one day and be stuck in them for 12 hours.
Footnote (pardon the pun, is there a pun thread also?): Most people have different sized feet, ie. one larger than the other. Try both shoes out and wear them around the store a little before you buy, they may not let you return them.
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Jul 18, 2002, 6:42 AM
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Everybody here is probably telling you the same things your friends in the gym told you. So I bet you know what you need. Just don't by it at all at a gym for heaven's sake. Shoes, yes, you'll want to get them just right. But go to www.climbonrock.com for everything if you can. They offer an "everything now" package that includes shoes, harness package and a top rope package for way less than you'll find anywhere else.
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wildabeast
Jul 19, 2002, 5:09 AM
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Okey dokey, Well I might just cut out a day and go through REI's collection of footwear, they also have a good selection of harnesses from what i've seen. Not that I have such a rediculous selection of shoes in the first place, usually there are only 2 or 3 pairs in the whole place that'll fit. They're great for kickin stuff, and balancing and whatnot, just not great having such a substandard footsize. Eh, chicks dig it, that's what's important I guess
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