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cliffhanger28
Apr 21, 2011, 11:55 PM
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Well here is my gear setup that i got so far (not pictured is my 70m of 10.5 mm rope.
but is there anything else i could need for top rope climbing? I plan on either anchoring to trees or existing bolts. I have been climbing in gyms so far but nothing outdoors yet. I plan on going climbing with someone with experience. all my webbing is in 10' lengths and my cord is 8mmx21m
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qwert
Apr 22, 2011, 9:37 AM
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Here's the pic
cliffhanger28 wrote: but is there anything else i could need for top rope climbing?
Brain
Helmet to protect said brain
In reply to: I plan on going climbing with someone with experience.
In reply to: all my webbing is in 10' lengths and my cord is 8mmx21m
Also for some applications 8mm could be a bit too skinny, especially when taken as a single strand.
I hope the"someone experienced" will give a more situation depended assessment of your gear.
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j_ung
Apr 22, 2011, 11:46 AM
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Pssst... ' = feet
OP, unless your trees and blocks are too far back from the cliff edge for your webbing, you'll be fine with what you have.
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sungam
Apr 22, 2011, 2:30 PM
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Just checking...
You're going to tie the webbing with water knots or similar, right? Cuz at-a-glance it looks like you are using in line 8's on your blue webbing, which is super sketchy. I'm assuming that it's just tied up for convenience, but n00bs do the darndest things...
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cliffhanger28
Apr 22, 2011, 2:47 PM
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Yea i just have them tied up like just to keep them from getting tangled up. I am also looking to a take an anchors building class at a rock climbing gym here soon. Which is actually taught at a state park where they allow rock climbing. I am just wondering if there is anything else i should buy other than a helmet which i will be buying here before i head out to climb outdoors.
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cliffhanger28
Apr 22, 2011, 2:49 PM
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hey there are there are all in 10 foot lengths. not then inches
'= one foot "= one inch
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MS1
Apr 22, 2011, 5:12 PM
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You'll find longer lengths of webbing more versatile for setting up natural anchors.
Leave the figure-8 at home or sell it on ebay.
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altelis
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My personal experience has been that a long piece of 8-9 mil static rope plus a couple single and double length slings is the easiest way to set up anchors with a simple kit that gives loads of possibilities.
Simple 2-3 point natural anchors.
Building in an independent strand to use to rap from the top to below the edge if rap'ing to the ground is needed,
Setting up a top-belay with a belay off the master point and an independent strand to use to clove into the anchor for perfect body positioning.
Etc, etc. The length will of course be dependent on your area, but I find that 50' works well around here. Loads of possibilities and MUCH cleaner anchors (no need for extending webbing, multiple biners or girth hitches, etc).
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potreroed
Apr 22, 2011, 7:35 PM
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You would do better with a couple of 20-25 foot lengths of webbing. 10 feet isn't much by the time you tie the knots. Otherwise, looks like you're good to go.
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cliffhanger28
Apr 29, 2011, 3:19 AM
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Yea i was thinking the same thing gonna get 2 that are 20 feet
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Rudmin
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sungam wrote: Just checking... You're going to tie the webbing with water knots or similar, right? Cuz at-a-glance it looks like you are using in line 8's on your blue webbing, which is super sketchy. I'm assuming that it's just tied up for convenience, but n00bs do the darndest things...
There's nothing sketchy about tying webbing with figure eights. A flat 8 would be dangerous, but so would a flat overhand.
edit: looked back and read in line 8. I guess that would be sketchy.
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sungam
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Rudmin wrote: sungam wrote: Just checking... You're going to tie the webbing with water knots or similar, right? Cuz at-a-glance it looks like you are using in line 8's on your blue webbing, which is super sketchy. I'm assuming that it's just tied up for convenience, but n00bs do the darndest things... There's nothing sketchy about tying webbing with figure eights. A flat 8 would be dangerous, but so would a flat overhand. edit: looked back and read in line 8. I guess that would be sketchy.
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majid_sabet
Apr 29, 2011, 5:16 PM
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MS1 wrote: You'll find longer lengths of webbing more versatile for setting up natural anchors. Leave the figure-8 at home or sell it on ebay.
what do you know about 8?
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michael1245
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cliffhanger28 wrote: Well here is my gear setup that i got so far (not pictured is my 70m of 10.5 mm rope. but is there anything else i could need for top rope climbing? I plan on either anchoring to trees or existing bolts. I have been climbing in gyms so far but nothing outdoors yet. I plan on going climbing with someone with experience. all my webbing is in 10' lengths and my cord is 8mmx21m [image][/image]
basic, generic answer with no idea of what you have available to anchor off of.
ditch the 8 and get a grigri (my preference).
I like webbing. it's cheap and strong. learn the water knot.
static rope is great to have too.
I have a couple of 60cm slings/runners and find myself using them quite often to connect and equalize two anchors.
couple of extra biners wont hurt.
have fun, be safe...
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cliffhanger28
Apr 29, 2011, 6:38 PM
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hey a peztel resverso 3 for belaying the figure is for rappelling only. I have been using a my atc at a local rock climbing place in columbus, its an outside free standing rock climbing tower pretty sweet you just need your own eqipment and i go there with some of my friends
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MS1
Apr 29, 2011, 6:42 PM
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cliffhanger28 wrote: hey a peztel resverso 3 for belaying the figure is for rappelling only. I have been using a my atc at a local rock climbing place in columbus, its an outside free standing rock climbing tower pretty sweet you just need your own eqipment and i go there with some of my friends
You can rappel with the reverso so the 8 is superfluous.
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MS1
Apr 29, 2011, 6:44 PM
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I've been to that place. It's pretty cool that the city set up a free rockclimbing park.
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cliffhanger28
Apr 29, 2011, 7:00 PM
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Hey I think I climbed with you there, you were there buy your self and we used my rope to climb. i was there just bouldering
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MS1
Apr 29, 2011, 7:06 PM
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I think you've got me mixed up with somebody else; I climbed there once, last August, while I was in Columbus for the weekend visiting some friends, and I didn't meet anyone else there. I used to live there, but I left before they built that thing.
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cliffhanger28
Apr 29, 2011, 7:12 PM
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oh ok gotcha
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ACLSRN
Jun 14, 2011, 10:38 PM
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MS1 wrote: You'll find longer lengths of webbing more versatile for setting up natural anchors. Leave the figure-8 at home or sell it on ebay.
Why leave the Figure 8 at home? We used to rappell using one of these all the time? Has something better replaced the 'ole' Figure 8 in recent years?
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MS1
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ACLSRN wrote: MS1 wrote: You'll find longer lengths of webbing more versatile for setting up natural anchors. Leave the figure-8 at home or sell it on ebay. Why leave the Figure 8 at home? We used to rappell using one of these all the time? Has something better replaced the 'ole' Figure 8 in recent years?
As I already explained upthread:
Mark wrote: You can rappel with the reverso so the 8 is superfluous. |
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ACLSRN
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Yes true in his case but what about someone who doesn't own one of those? lol.
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TarHeelEMT
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ACLSRN wrote: MS1 wrote: You'll find longer lengths of webbing more versatile for setting up natural anchors. Leave the figure-8 at home or sell it on ebay. Why leave the Figure 8 at home? We used to rappell using one of these all the time? Has something better replaced the 'ole' Figure 8 in recent years?
A tube style belay device works just as well, and you can't belay with the 8. There's no sense in carrying it. We use them in rescue, but I would never take one climbing.
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