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kennyma
Jun 28, 2011, 10:16 PM
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I see a lot of posts and online tips about what to do but how about what not to do? Any bad habits a newbie should avoid?
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TarHeelEMT
Jun 28, 2011, 10:34 PM
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When in conversation with other climbers, don't babble incessantly about what Alex Honnold, Chris Sharma, or some other big name climber just did.
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potreroed
Jun 28, 2011, 10:58 PM
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Don't think that you can climb 5.10 outdoors just 'cuz you can climb 5.10 in the gym and don't tell prospective partners that you can climb 5.11 or 5.10 if you can't.
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TarHeelEMT
Jun 28, 2011, 11:03 PM
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potreroed wrote: Don't think that you can climb 5.10 outdoors just 'cuz you can climb 5.10 in the gym and don't tell prospective partners that you can climb 5.11 or 5.10 if you can't.
I'd broaden this. Never ever claim to know or be able to do anything that you don't or can't.
(This post was edited by TarHeelEMT on Jun 28, 2011, 11:09 PM)
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kennyma
Jun 29, 2011, 2:19 AM
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Nice. Who knew I could learn some life lessons here :)
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Rudmin
Jun 29, 2011, 2:27 AM
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My biggest beef with beginners is, unless it's break time, don't stand around holding your balls. There is usually something to done, and you should only have to be told to do it the first time. Or better yet, watch what other people do and jump in next time. Put on your harness, rack up your gear, have your shoes on, tie your knot, sort out the gear, flake the rope, coil it back up. Try to never be that guy that everyone else is waiting for. Try to be the person who is waiting for others to get their shit together.
Don't make any reference or comparisons to Spider-Man.
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jacques
Jun 29, 2011, 3:59 AM
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Rudmin wrote: Try to never be that guy that everyone else is waiting for. Try to be the person who is waiting for others to get their shit together.
And never be the guy who wait that the other do his/all the job....
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dead_horse_flats
Jun 29, 2011, 4:00 AM
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Amen to Rudmin.
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Colinhoglund
Jun 29, 2011, 6:13 AM
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Don't buy a whole new wardrobe and the most expensive gear you can find the first week you start. Nothing screams n00b more than a full suit of Arcteryx wobbling up a 5.7. Keep it simple early on and you'll learn what you need as you go. As you get more into the sport you'll learn the value of buying the right gear as opposed to the 'fashionable' gear.
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superchuffer
Jun 29, 2011, 12:20 PM
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don't slack on safety. always wear a helmet and daisy chains, even at the gym.
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notapplicable
Jun 29, 2011, 1:26 PM
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superchuffer wrote: don't slack on safety. always wear a helmet and daisy chains, even at the gym.
[hijack] How in the world are daisy chains a mandatory piece of "safety gear"? [/hijack]
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Speed4TheNeed
Jun 29, 2011, 1:28 PM
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Colinhoglund wrote: Don't buy a whole new wardrobe and the most expensive gear you can find the first week you start. Nothing screams n00b more than a full suit of Arcteryx wobbling up a 5.7. Keep it simple early on and you'll learn what you need as you go. As you get more into the sport you'll learn the value of buying the right gear as opposed to the 'fashionable' gear.
While I do agree that beginners should leave the expensive gear alone until they are ready for it, doesn't anyone wobbling up a 5.7--regardless of gear--scream newbie?
superchuffer wrote: don't slack on safety. always wear a helmet and daisy chains, even at the gym.
It's confusing when you mix seriousness with sarcasm in the same paragraph!
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notapplicable
Jun 29, 2011, 1:32 PM
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Do not assume that belaying is a simple or straightforward affair. Do not be afraid to ask more experienced folks about different techniques, or what they would do in certain circumstances. Belaying is an art just like leading a routes and can take years to become truly proficient.
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markc
Jun 29, 2011, 2:04 PM
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Rudmin wrote: My biggest beef with beginners is, unless it's break time, don't stand around holding your balls. There is usually something to done, and you should only have to be told to do it the first time. Or better yet, watch what other people do and jump in next time. Put on your harness, rack up your gear, have your shoes on, tie your knot, sort out the gear, flake the rope, coil it back up. Try to never be that guy that everyone else is waiting for. Try to be the person who is waiting for others to get their shit together.
Yep. I'll add that it speaks volumes when you're loading up at the car and the new guy asks, "What can I carry?" You usually don't have much personal gear, and it's helpful to grab the rope or something else.
If you're not sure what to do, there's nothing wrong with asking how you can pitch in. After a day or two, these things should be obvious and those that are really taking to climbing should be anticipating jobs.
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kennyma
Jun 29, 2011, 3:44 PM
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In reply to: Don't make any reference or comparisons to Spider-Man.
Dang! I've already done that :(
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markc
Jun 29, 2011, 3:48 PM
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kennyma wrote: In reply to: Don't make any reference or comparisons to Spider-Man. Dang! I've already done that :(
You may be joking, but one of my friends is a huge Spidey fan. I took him to the climbing tower at the local REI, knowing full well that he wouldn't be able to resist the reference.
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essay
Jun 29, 2011, 3:54 PM
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Avoid looking a sport climber in the eyes,
Avoid feeding a sport climber after midnight,
Avoid putting water on a sport climber,
Always exit a room facing the sport climber,
Because if you don't do all this, they turn into Gremlins, will steal your girlfriend, will eat your dog, and will sleep on your floor indefinitely.
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Colinhoglund
Jun 29, 2011, 4:04 PM
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Speed4TheNeed wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: Don't buy a whole new wardrobe and the most expensive gear you can find the first week you start. Nothing screams n00b more than a full suit of Arcteryx wobbling up a 5.7. Keep it simple early on and you'll learn what you need as you go. As you get more into the sport you'll learn the value of buying the right gear as opposed to the 'fashionable' gear. While I do agree that beginners should leave the expensive gear alone until they are ready for it, doesn't anyone wobbling up a 5.7--regardless of gear--scream newbie?
Sorry, the connotation I use for n00b is the overly lame beginner. I give full credit for the guy in jeans and a tee who is doing his best to learn our sport. Its like the way out of shape dude with a carbon fibre bike, out of place!
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bearbreeder
Jun 29, 2011, 5:03 PM
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dead bird will instantly make you into a super duper climber ... or "look" the part anyways 
and all that double rack of shiny camalots means yr a trad climber 
what not to do? .... dont spray about being a "10c climber" if its in the gym
cause the first thing ill do is throw you on a testpiece "10c" and watch you have fun ... on TR of course 
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Speed4TheNeed
Jun 29, 2011, 9:10 PM
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Colinhoglund wrote: Speed4TheNeed wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: Don't buy a whole new wardrobe and the most expensive gear you can find the first week you start. Nothing screams n00b more than a full suit of Arcteryx wobbling up a 5.7. Keep it simple early on and you'll learn what you need as you go. As you get more into the sport you'll learn the value of buying the right gear as opposed to the 'fashionable' gear. While I do agree that beginners should leave the expensive gear alone until they are ready for it, doesn't anyone wobbling up a 5.7--regardless of gear--scream newbie? Sorry, the connotation I use for n00b is the overly lame beginner. I give full credit for the guy in jeans and a tee who is doing his best to learn our sport. Its like the way out of shape dude with a carbon fibre bike, out of place!
I get what you are saying...the newbie who thinks he's not a newbie by being booksmart (as opposed to plain experienced) and geared up so over his head it's apparent? Or maybe I don't get what you're saying..lol that's what I got out of it anyway. But yes, there is a difference.
Me...I know enough to know I don't know nearly enough.
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AntinJ
Jun 29, 2011, 9:13 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: dead bird will instantly make you into a super duper climber ... or "look" the part anyways and all that double rack of shiny camalots means yr a trad climber what not to do? .... dont spray about being a "10c climber" if its in the gym cause the first thing ill do is throw you on a testpiece "10c" and watch you have fun ... on TR of course
I agree ~ I'd suggest being a little modest at first when explaining your abilities!
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Colinhoglund
Jun 29, 2011, 9:24 PM
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Exactly. There is a huge difference in my mind between the beginner getting milage while learning rockcraft, and a n00b.
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Jul 3, 2011, 7:22 PM
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notapplicable wrote: superchuffer wrote: don't slack on safety. always wear a helmet and daisy chains, even at the gym. [hijack] How in the world are daisy chains a mandatory piece of "safety gear"? [/hijack]
I read that as a joke.
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j_ung
Jul 3, 2011, 7:26 PM
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Rudmin wrote: My biggest beef with beginners is, unless it's break time, don't stand around holding your balls. There is usually something to done, and you should only have to be told to do it the first time. Or better yet, watch what other people do and jump in next time. Put on your harness, rack up your gear, have your shoes on, tie your knot, sort out the gear, flake the rope, coil it back up. Try to never be that guy that everyone else is waiting for. Try to be the person who is waiting for others to get their shit together. Don't make any reference or comparisons to Spider-Man.
I was with a crew of beginner riverboarders once (unintentionally—a friend brought them along), and that exact thing kept happening all day long. At the meeting place: "OK, guys we're trying to get out of here. Pick a car and put your stuff in it." At the shuttle: "Let's go guys. Unless you're not coming, get in a car." At the put in: "You guys might want to start putting your stuff on." At the take out: "We're not spending the night here, folks. Get in a car, already."
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