My gym recently had a event to support a local climber who has Leukemia. There was a raffle in which i won a set of Climb X nuts. Anyone have any experience with this brand? Couldn't really find any review / info... Either way support a good cause / win some free gear win win situation! Thanks

Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.

Yep, they are a disgrace. Climb X is a knock off of Mad Rock. The owner of Climb X used to work for Mad Rock. While working there he committed espionage and stole a company computer containing sensitive product development information. He then used his existing knowledge and the data on that computer to completely copy Mad Rock's entire product line. Mad Rock sued Climb X and of course got a settlement. Or at least that is what they say. The only thing that is truly clear is that the owner of Climb X is a very shady and dishonest person. Every person I know that knows the owner of Climb X has had nothing but bad things to say. Dont buy product from Climb X, you are supporting a very shady company.

Well... I doubt anyone who actually owns anything from Climb X will post on this thread for fear of internet persecution! O well, figured I would ask anyways. They look decent.... I will give them a go this weekend.

All this goes back way before Madrock on both sides of things. This all goes back decades and the fact these two parties are at odds doesn't make either one of them people I'd do business with.

Madrock never pulled this though:
http://climbxgear.com/...autobelaydevice.aspx

...your point being?

I think he's trying to say it looks oddly similar to another very popular product on the market, albeit definitely not made by madrock.

I'm not sure what the point is either, unless he's saying it's only a matter of time before petzl goes postal on them.

That was obvious.

Exactly. That particular point is moot.

Hint: that would be like saying that BD is going to go postal on DMM for producing the Dragon Cams.

Yeah. I would have thought that petzl would have seen this a long time ago.

On the same note, the same year the patent is up on the grigri, the Gri Gri 2 gets released. Go figure.

On the same note, the same year the patent is up on the grigri, the Gri Gri 2 gets released. Go figure.

It seems Climb X has reached a new low. Not only are they steeling ideas from Mad Rock, but apparently now Petzl too. What a joke...

I have been following along, and I am aware that companies like DMM have ripped off designes from other companies like Black Diamond. But there is a big difference between taking a design and improving or modifying it and simply copying an entire product line. Climb X is not taking one product and improving on it, they are simply making cookie cutter replicas for every product they sell - big difference. They are the only "company" in the industry that has a 100% all fake and copied product line. No other company rips off more designs than they do.

You're still operating under the delusion that behavior isn't common to both parties when it's really more just a divorce of a very like-minded couple.