Hi guys,

I want to purchase a pair of Mythos, but I have a question about the stretch and sizing. There's a lot of info/posts on the web about it and I've done a fair amount of research, but I'm still not sure what size to get.

I basically want my toes to be flat in these shoes. They're flat at size 41, slightly curled at 40-40.5, and noticeably curled at 39.5. My street size is US 9-9.5.

Some people told me they don't stretch that much, some told me they stretch 2 sizes, some told me they only stretch when sized tightly, some told me they don't stretch lengthwise...I know the stretch will vary slightly from person to person, but what's your recommendation?

I have owned Mythos spanning 2.5-3 sizes. The largest size allowed my toes to lie very flat. The smallest were as tight as I could have them without severely curling my toes. After the smallest ones have stretched, there is virtually no difference between the smallest and largest size. They stretch a lot. I can easily wear Mythos that are 1-1.5 sizes smaller than any other pair of LS shoes that I own (TC Pros, Miura, Miura VS).

My recommendation would be to size them slightly curled if you plan on using them primarily for slab climbing (about the only thing I think they are good for) or for all day comfort. Size them with toes noticeably curled if using them for more technical climbing (in which case you should just choose another shoe anyway). Really though, my experience is that they have stretched proportionally to their initial tightness and they have all ended up feeling about the same anyway.

I tried for a month... they never ever stopped feeling like they were crushing the bones in my feet into peanutbutter. Even though lengthwise (toe to heel) they were loose and sloppy.

If you have wide feet, they will stretch sideways as well

What are you basing that on? As I said, I do, and they didn't.

GO

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I am basing that on my experience, they were tight on the width when I got them and they have completly molded to my feet now. They stretch the most on the width, very quickly too.

Yes, I guess I should have specified that they stretched in length. I have narrow feet, so they never changed much width-wise.

Please explain how they stretched in length, since the length is determined by a slab of rubber that does not stretch.

Dunno, but if you really think that mythos don't stretch lengthwise, you have clearly never worn a pair. I can assure you that my mythos, sized 3 full sizes below most of my other shoes made my toes curl when they were new. Now, my toes are flat and they feel very similar to the same pair of shoes in a larger size, even with the laces tightened nearly all the way. I have a hard beleiving this could occur just from stretching widthwise. My experience is not unique. Perhaps you have another explanation?

My recommendation would be to size them slightly curled if you plan on using them primarily for slab climbing (about the only thing I think they are good for) or for all day comfort.

how wide are your feet?, D? E? EE?