I still use "Up Rope", "Slack", "On belay", "Off Belay", etc. Really don't use "Take"...

I keep hearing people at the gym using "Take" not only at the end of the route when they want to be lowered but also mid-route when they want "Up Rope". Just another gym n00b bad habit that seems to be making it's way outside, I guess. I shouldn't have used it at all in this thread. Sorry about that.

Speaking of bad gym habits, every once in a while I've been inviting people I meet in the gym to climb outside with me. Try to instill a few good habits: show them how to set a TR anchor, how to rappel, have respect the land owners and neighbors, keep the noise down, always bring a plastic bag and carry out trash - stuff like that.

@GMBurns2000, I was just yanking your chain. We're good, right? Besides, it's fun to see how easy it is to make BB twitch ;)

When I was taught to lead belay, I would give the climber slack when they needed to clip and move up; but take out excess slack when needed.

But then I was climbing with one guy and he only fed me slack. Never took it out when I had clipped in and had a extreme excess. Thus when I fell I toook a huge whipper like 25 ft

I have always felt that my way was better but he insisted his was the proper way.

you should never tell blayer what to do. The minute you do so, its time to replace him/her

What do you think?