Short answer: they are pretty much exactly the same, except the reverso 3 is more expensive and has features you probably won't be using for a long time, if ever.

I totally disagree. I use the features on my Reverso 3 all the time. I love it, and if you ever do multi pitch stuff, you'll fall in love with it.

http://www.dailyclimbingtips.com/.../ode-to-the-reverso/

Sorry, but no. In my experience, the vast majority of people new to the sport of climbing will never climb multi-pitch or need to belay from above.

By the time that they develop the skills and desire to climb things requiring a belay from above, if ever, they will almost certainly have had need to purchase a second belay device for one reason or another. I don't think I know a single person who climbs multi-pitch who owns only one belay device.

Furthermore, even if the OP will eventually need to belay from above, there are plenty of ways to accomplish this without having to use an auto-blocking device. It is often useful, but rarely (if ever) necessary.


In summary:
really unlikely * really unlikely * unnecessary = extremely unlikely that you will actually get any value out of the additional money you spent

Edited cuz i suk at inglish

Again, I completely disagree. I think that it's entirely likely that a beginner today could could be doing multi pitch within a year or two (I did. I know a lot of other people who did), a time period that I don't believe warrants a new belay device just from wear and tear. If all you ever do is single pitch sport climbing, then sure, you won't need the extra features of the Reverso 3. But why limit yourself?

Let's be honest here: A $10 difference between the Verso and the Reverso 3 isn't that big of a deal!

And sure, there are other ways to belay from above without the Reverso 3. And there are other ways to belay than with a tube-style device... But you belay WITH a tube-style device because it makes belaying easier, and you belay from above with a device like the Reverso 3 because it makes belaying from above easier.

I've used both the Verso and the Reverso 3. I'd get the Reverso 3.

In summary: Very likely that if you DO get into multi pitch climbing, you'll be kicking yourself for not buying the Reverso 3 from the beginning :) It is also very likely that you'll be happy with the extra money you spent.

You've got to be kidding to think that a new climber will be leading multipitch within a year or two to the extent that a plaquette device is necessary for bringing up a second(s).

Nope. That's why I said it. Obviously not every n00b gym climber today will be leading multipitch routes one year from now, but there's no reason it can't happen, and it does happen.

Show of hands... how many Reverso-3 users have actually practiced releasing it when fully loaded?

You've got to be kidding to think that a new climber will be leading multipitch within a year or two to the extent that a plaquette device is necessary for bringing up a second(s).

I agree! I think though that multi-pitch in a year is well within reach of a new climber, but perhaps not so much someone who practises exclusively sport.

I find it interesting though how soooo many beginners learn to belay using auto-blocks and grigri's but fail to experience the long haul of learning from basics and working up from there.... I did it, so should everyone else! Seriously though, a good long mentorship through multi-pitch techniques using the rope in anchors and tube-style devices (heck, even figure 8's and munters) isn't so detrimental to a beginner climber. Many of us, who have been climbing a while, made the same steps in progress... why are beginners these days in such a hurry to buy and use the speciality stuff without learning the basics?

ya whats wrong with mutipitch? of course get the reverso3. It has all the function of the Verso + more.
Its like a 2WD vs 4WD truck. The 4WD can go all the places the 2WD and beyond

This is the same mentality that led to influx of soccer moms driving glorified 4x4 mall cruisers that never leave a paved road

However, Reverso3's do not pollute the environment or act like they own the road

No, just to climbers who think they are guides who use them on single pitch routes to lower climbers http://www.rockclimbing.com/...d;page=unread#unread

Hi, which one is better and more user friendly towards a begineer such as myself the Verso or the Reverso 3 .

I find it interesting though how soooo many beginners learn to belay using auto-blocks and grigri's but fail to experience the long haul of learning from basics and working up from there.... I did it, so should everyone else! Seriously though, a good long mentorship through multi-pitch techniques using the rope in anchors and tube-style devices (heck, even figure 8's and munters) isn't so detrimental to a beginner climber. Many of us, who have been climbing a while, made the same steps in progress... why are beginners these days in such a hurry to buy and use the speciality stuff without learning the basics?