...it's a dangerous sport; that's why I do it...

f--- it man, pro rips all the time, it's a dangerous sport; that's why I do it.

you're like soo toootally X-treeeeem Johny Utah... dhuuude.

The point is people often delude themselves that their pro can hold any fall, no matter how hard. It can't. You'll die.

Spare me, will you. Driving's dangerous. Crossing the f---ing street is dangeous. Extreme has nothing to do with it.

The point is that if BD says a .75 C4 can hold 13kN and a doctor tells me that a 12kn fall is the limit of physical tolerance for a human body before internal organd tear loose and you hemmorhage to death, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect said cam, IF PLACED PROPERLY, to hold any fall that I might reasonably otherwise survive.

Crossing the f---ing street is dangeous.

Wideguy, stick to clipping bolts until you understand what is wrong with your comment...you're a danger to yourself and partners.

mmm yeah... that's the only reason I make the trek across that path of doom.

I live my life on the edge, brah!... wouldn't have it any other way.

Watch out. I'm dangerous.

I drink my Mtn Dew and I'm revel in my Xtreemness. :wink: :lol:

My recommendation is to mumble "urr..gnarly...gnarly" in your sleep and rob small schoolchildren of their milk money.

I'd like to point out my bolding above for further attention below.


So on Aug. 23, when you posted this:

you were actively an employee or contractor of CCH? And given the bolding above, you have been keeping to the facts regarding the Metolious and BD "failures" ( I have to point out here that a trigger malfunction is not a failure )?

In the interest of full disclosure, it would be interesting to note whose money you are taking while spreading disinformation about other manufacturer's.


You seem more than willing to bash multiple other manufacturers, but won't hear of it when it concerns CCH. Seems odd, does it not?

Murf

so my question now is.. are the aliens that say "tensile tested" on them (like mine do) Are they safe to climb on?

So, are we ever going to see a picture of the cam?

Not meaning to ressurect a dead and buried thread. However, even if my information was incorrect about cams being weaker than other pro, my point is the same. My 150 foot high factor fall was actually unnecessary. Just consider a 4-foot high factor (1.8-9) fall; it generates the same amount of force. If your belayer is tight to the anchors and using a static locking belay device, the forces on the top piece (not the climber) could easily break even the strongest gear. With just a four foot fall. My point in ranting like this and going off topic is not to say that gear sucks and you should never use it; what I want to say is more along the lines of, maybe we should be more careful about giving a dymaic enough belay, and maybe not using a grigri/cinch on trad routes whenever possible. See what I mean?