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billcoe_
Apr 10, 2007, 4:31 AM
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gblauer wrote: On another note, after all the discussion of Gri Gri vs. ATC, I was incredulous when I watched a person get dropped last night at the gym. His girlfriend opened the gate of the Gri Gri and she dropped him 10 feet to the deck. He ended up being choppered to the hospital because he suffered a precipitous decline in blood pressure. I have seen his girlfriend in the gym on several occasions. She is a "noob", but, she has at least 6 months of experience using a gri gri. Bottom line: Sh*t happens, especially when you least expect it.
No, we disagree. Radically and deeply. Don't climb with Noobs unless you are damn sure of em. 6 months is nothing. Please reflect deeper on this statement.
gblauer wrote: On a happier note, I am doing remarkably well (all those prayers and healing sessions) and I am almost pain free.
Gail, it's good to hear. Real good. Could you discuss your cranial/sacrial massage thing here: somebody needs help and advise which you might be able to really assist with. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/...dac873c3d#Post667309
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elpicara
Jan 21, 2011, 8:28 PM
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I think the bottom line here is that ATCs are never 100% reliable or not even close. Why don't just use a grigri or any other auto-lock belay devise?
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jt512
Jan 21, 2011, 8:30 PM
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elpicara wrote: I think the bottom line here is that ATCs are never 100% reliable or not even close. Why don't just use a grigri or any other auto-lock belay devise?
*pops popcorn*
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healyje
Jan 21, 2011, 10:27 PM
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elpicara wrote: I think the bottom line here is that ATCs are never 100% reliable or not even close. Why don't just use a grigri or any other auto-lock belay devise?
Somehow you've taken away entirely the wrong message from all you've experienced and read. ATCs are 100% reliable. In fact, they're perfect. Grigris are 100% reliable as well. What appears to be unreliable these days is the people using them. The NRAs 70's mantra sums up the situation well. If civil aviation were climbing it would be raining light planes.
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Adk
Jan 22, 2011, 1:34 PM
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....and the thread is how old,again?
Old threads brought up by the same person. Again!
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