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zozo
Feb 15, 2004, 2:04 PM
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Are two 60 meter ropes enough to rap off the second pitch of this climb? I dont have a guide book available.
Thanks
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coclimber26
Feb 15, 2004, 2:48 PM
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Two 60's are more than enough...Those anchors on the top scare me, even for the garden...I'm not sure if they have been replaced or not...If you are on top of the tower you can climb a 3rd pitch with an airy 5.8 step across to the top of south gateway.. you can then walk off to the south..the move from the tower to gateway wall is committing but a fun 3rd pitch to the route..
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zozo
Feb 15, 2004, 2:55 PM
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I thought you needed gear to protect that third pitch (which I dont have). Are the anchors you are talking about at the second or third pitch?
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coclimber26
Feb 16, 2004, 6:44 PM
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yes, you do need gear for the third pitch...the second is a bit runout but the lower section is protected...the first pitch is bolt protected and no gear is needed..The second pitch ends on the top of the spire..
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hendicrimpin
Feb 16, 2004, 7:40 PM
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Just curious, is the climbing very good at the garden of the gods?? I've got some family around evansville, and they keep trying to get me to visit by saying i could climb there for a fix. So....worth it?
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zozo
Feb 16, 2004, 7:43 PM
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I love it. The sun bakes there all day, a great mix of routes and styles, you get spoiled climbing that sandstone though.
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lachendro
May 3, 2004, 6:09 PM
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In reply to: the second is a bit runout but the lower section is protected
A bit runout? Though the climbing's easy I'd say the second pitch is very runout. The last bolt of the second pitch is at the very beginning of the crack. I did the second pitch unprotected and it was a little scetchy.
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climbingaggie03
May 3, 2004, 7:05 PM
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i would just do the first pitch if i were you, the second one isn't bolted once you get into the crack, and it seems like it looked like there was some loose stuff in the chimney.
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coclimber26
May 28, 2004, 4:54 PM
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You can protect it with large pro if need be or with creative pro. The climbing is easy enough and by garden standards it is only mildly runout.
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coclimber26
May 28, 2004, 4:55 PM
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You can protect it with large pro if need be or with creative pro. The climbing is easy enough and by garden standards it is only mildly runout.
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rck_climber
Jun 1, 2004, 5:20 PM
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Yeah, I agree, that 2nd pitch would be VERY runout without some pro - that chimney/crack at the top is all trad, including an exposed run to the anchors once you exit the crack. It's a little loose in there, but no more so than any other place in the garden.
Hendicrimp - this is the Garden of the Gods in Colorado, I think you're thinking of the one in Indiana or Illinois.
Mick
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