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bler
Jul 16, 2005, 5:46 PM
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anyone else notice a 'climb harder' syndrome in boulder/sport climbing ? even with injuries, i hear people state 'all i want to do is climb harder' even with major injuries, their goal is to climb hard stuff. I can see why someone would like to climb harder and harder, but it just seems like everyone projects to be climbing .14's in a year.. ya, i'd like to climb .14s but i can wait whatever time it takes me to get there and even if I don't its still fun to climb out the .10's, .11's and upwards to whatever level I reach i'd hate to miss some awesome .9's or .10s only because I thought 'oh, those are too easy for me, they will be no fun' but then again, thats probably just the way it is with sport climbing, maybe i should be dabbling in some trad or aid as well, but sport is just soo easy ;)
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danbensen
Jul 16, 2005, 7:06 PM
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I think a lot of it has to do with exactly what you just said: sport is so much easier than trad or aid, and therefore you can push your limits higher and earlier. I do trad almost exclusively, and although I enjoy going right to the brink of what I'm capable of, I have to be much more realistic.
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ikefromla
Jul 16, 2005, 7:32 PM
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In reply to: it just seems like everyone projects to be climbing .14's in a year.. wow, i guess you happen to climb with a bunch of stupid people. I want to climb hard. if you see the appeal of it, what is there for me to explain? I certainly wasn't trying to push 14 in a year (at that time i thought the grade would be impossible for me to attain... ever.)
In reply to: sport is so much easier than trad or aid, and therefore you can push your limits higher and earlier. this is a good point, but i think your reply may be misunderstood thanks to the word "easier." i would say that it is less complicated, in terms of gear and learning what you need to be able to push yourelf.. but I would hardly call high-end sport climbing "easy." fondly, Ike "the sporto-weenie who happens to own two crashpads and a rack"
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andrewbanandrew
Jul 16, 2005, 7:40 PM
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I like to push my own personal limits... BUT I would rather climb a 4 star 5.easy than a 2 star 5.hard
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toejam
Jul 16, 2005, 7:51 PM
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I want to climb softer grades, but you run out of easy stuff after a while...
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rufusandcompany
Jul 16, 2005, 8:42 PM
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The fact about climbing hard routes is that you cannot train for them on easier routes, just as you cannot train to do one hundred push ups by doing ten. It simply doesn’t work that way.
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bler
Jul 16, 2005, 8:52 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: it just seems like everyone projects to be climbing .14's in a year.. wow, i guess you happen to climb with a bunch of stupid people. I want to climb hard. if you see the appeal of it, what is there for me to explain? I certainly wasn't trying to push 14 in a year (at that time i thought the grade would be impossible for me to attain... ever.) well, I was being a little fecitious but yah stupid i guess stupid; when they are climbing .13 now and/or boulder in the v8 range.. I know people want to climb hard, I'm not asking for your explination of anything, rather people's opinion on the topic : people wanting to climb too hard too fast, in regards to injury and/or missing a lot of good climbing in the lower grades. its just a question that I posed for discussion.. there really is no answer..
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rufusandcompany
Jul 16, 2005, 9:27 PM
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