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Poll: ''what's more dangerous?''
Rock climbing/Bouldering 11 / 23%
Driving a car 37 / 77%
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carabiner96


Jun 17, 2007, 3:29 AM
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Yeah, that photo seemed a little excessive. Kinda want to know the backstory on that sucker.


superbum


Jun 17, 2007, 3:35 AM
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I voted for climbing so that I would feel bad ass.


dirtme


Jun 17, 2007, 3:45 AM
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I think driving to the crag is more dangerous then both driving OR climbing.


granite_grrl


Jun 18, 2007, 1:28 PM
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This has to be looked as a percentage, both to take into account the number of people driving vs climbing, but also as the amount of time you spend driving vs climbing....I'd say climbing.

There are a number of ways to reduce risk, one of the big ones is to reduce your exposure time. How many hours do people spend travelling in a vehicle per day vs time on the rock.


reg


Jun 18, 2007, 2:12 PM
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mturner wrote:
jmccalip wrote:
bent_gate wrote:
If by "dangerous" you mean like spraining an ankle...

Then it's definitely driving. Cool

No, serious injuries and death.


Like this person(kinda graphic).
http://club-fiesta.net/...;topic=2428.msg29896

Why did I have to look at that while I was eating? Crazy

yeah - i was sayin to myself: "don't click on it" but i did anyway - coulda done without it


tradmanclimbs


Jun 18, 2007, 4:16 PM
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hard to compare the two. Apples and oranges. we all spend a lot more time driveing and some of us drink and drive especialy after climbing. The objective dangers of driveing are Huge. Lotta other folks on the road that can kill you at any moment. If all you do is sportclimb its more like driveing. Your injury possibilitys are mostly linked to lowering accidents or equiptment failure. Bouldering is like rideing a moped. basicly dosen't count unless you do highballs without pads. trad climbing and wall climbing are more like auto raceing. Lots of protective measures taken but the price can be high if you blow it. Alpine climbing is like raceing Moto GP. lots more chance to get hurt there. High altitude climbing is maby more like driveing in a war zone. You can be the baddest dude in the buisness and still get hit by a random roadside bomb or a sudden storm.


the_climber


Jun 18, 2007, 5:19 PM
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reg wrote:
mturner wrote:
jmccalip wrote:
bent_gate wrote:
If by "dangerous" you mean like spraining an ankle...

Then it's definitely driving. Cool

No, serious injuries and death.


Like this person(kinda graphic).
http://club-fiesta.net/...;topic=2428.msg29896

Why did I have to look at that while I was eating? Crazy

yeah - i was sayin to myself: "don't click on it" but i did anyway - coulda done without it

It's one of those "the more you tell someone not to click on the link... the more likely they are to click it"Crazy

...but alas, the photo's are firewalled at work.... have to look later


shimanilami


Jun 18, 2007, 5:41 PM
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mikitta wrote:
However, inherintly, there is a great amount of risk assumed when one engages in the sport of climbing because there usually aren't "little" accidents. Most climbing accidents result in moderate to severe trauma or death.

I think you've got it wrong. Seriously, how many times have you sprained your ankle, scraped your knee, or tweaked a finger tendon while driving? I'd say that injuries incurred in car accidents are far more likely to be "serious" (i.e. broken bones, paralization, death, etc.) than those incurred while climbing.

In my experience, most climbing accidents do not result in "severe trauma or death". They're just kind of inconvenient. But if you get hurt in a car accident, you're probably going to the hospital.


david_smithrock


Jun 18, 2007, 6:00 PM
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It's hard to compare the two, since we don't know exactly how many "climbers" there are and what "climbing" is defined as, but here are some stats about driving from http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/stats.html:

In 2005:
196,000,000 licensed drivers
6,420,000 were in accidents (3.3% of licensed drivers)
2,900,000 injured (1.5%)
42,636 killed (.02%)

That would mean 1 of every 5000 licensed drivers was killed in 2005 alone! I'm sure if you include all genres of climbing it may be similar; but for the average sport or trad climber I would have a hard time believing that 1 of every 5000 would die in a given year.


shimanilami


Jun 18, 2007, 6:10 PM
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david_smithrock wrote:
That would mean 1 of every 5000 licensed drivers was killed in 2005 alone! I'm sure if you include all genres of climbing it may be similar; but for the average sport or trad climber I would have a hard time believing that 1 of every 5000 would die in a given year.

Considering that the vast majority of "climbers" (i.e. people who call themselves such) climb plastic only and never touch real rock, I think you're probably right.

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