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zlipper
Mar 11, 2003, 3:38 PM
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shortly here i am going to be moving to canada in the Toronto or B.C. areas i need to get some info on the areas and possibly a place to stay for a short time
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acrophobic
Mar 11, 2003, 4:13 PM
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well B.C is a big place... where were you thinking of moving to? in terms of climbing B.C is the better choice.. it's pretty much 80% mountains. There are awsome crags all over the place... no matter where you are. Toronto has the nightlife though and some climbing, but it gets much colder suring the winter... Coastal BC is moderate all year round... Squamish is a great place and vancouver island has some amazing hidden away crags.
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ontario_guide
Mar 11, 2003, 8:01 PM
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ya, you might want to narrow that down. Both Ontario and B.C. are 2-3 times bigger then France. I can give you some options for Toronto and I'm sure someone from B.C. can help you out with that if you can narrow it down...
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climbingjunky
Mar 11, 2003, 8:09 PM
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Squamish, BC is the ultimate place to be for climbing of all sports. "The Outdoor capital of Canada"
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ontario_guide
Mar 11, 2003, 8:11 PM
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Yes but Toronto has... No wait. Move to Squamish.
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granite_grrl
Mar 12, 2003, 2:34 PM
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Bah, forget Toronto, it's overrated. Go to BC, I know that I want to (though NS is pretty fab too)
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missedyno
Mar 12, 2003, 3:10 PM
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i like toronto, i live here, but one day i want to move out west. move there for me...... besides climbing *gasp* consider rental rates as well. PM me if you want to get ahold of the good rent sites for TO, or some mags. i just moved.... oh and i have a spare room here, could look into renting it out to you, depends on what you're looking for and how long you stay.... (psycho killers need not apply)
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mustclimb69
Mar 12, 2003, 3:14 PM
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Live in Toronto but desperatly want to move to BC...soon! Been to both and my vote is for the west. Rainy but worth it!
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ecocliffchick
Mar 12, 2003, 3:28 PM
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In terms of information on the areas - I can tell you about Toronto. It's a big city. If you like big cities, than Toronto is your choice. If you're not so interested in living in a big city - there are smaller cities and towns around Toronto that are much more comforable to live in and have a much slower pace, like Guelph :) (yet are still close enough to enjoy the benefits of having a big city nearby - i.e. music, sports, theatre, airport, etc.). In terms of the climbing scene. There is some awesome limestone all around Toronto. The cliffs range from slabby to steep, are typically a single pitch (though sometimes two) and contain around 1000 trad lines and 400 sport (all within 40 min- 2 hrs away). Not too shabby.
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sheppe
Mar 12, 2003, 4:16 PM
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I live in Kelowna, BC, so I can give you a bit of info about this location. We're about four hours inland from the coast (and about 5 1/2 hours from Squamish). We've got three good climbing areas about 20-40 minutes from downtown, and are only about 1 1/2 hours from the Skaha bluffs (they're huge, you've probably heard of them). The weather is mild in the winter, but can get quite hot in the summer (of course, hot is a relative term - about 85-100 degrees, average, in American terms). The city is built along the shore of the Okanagan lake, so there's boating and swimming in the summer. In the winter you've got two world-class ski resorts within 1 1/2 hours of downtown. The city isn't huge, but it isn't too small (> 200,000 people). We've got a fairly new arena in town, so we often get big shows now, and there are galleries, and a museum, etc. HTH
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meataxe
Mar 12, 2003, 4:32 PM
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Toronto is good in a lot of ways. BC is good too. If you still can't decide... split the difference and move to SASKATCHEWAN!!! :twisted:
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acrophobic
Mar 12, 2003, 5:32 PM
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rofl... sask.... not a bump over 6 foot. The CHEAPEST place to live in canada is Alberta. Has the least tax and overal the cheapest standard of living. if you're going to BC, don't go to vancouver unless you have lotsa money. If you are strapped for cash, move to Calgary in Alberta... only 40 mins away from canmore with 5 crags... limestone/slab sports and quite a few multipich trad/sports (12+ piches) and Banff/lakelouise with more. It will be hard to find a good job in central BC... be sure to get a job quick in vancouver... Calgary also has great job oppertunities and is much cheaper.
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prenj
Mar 13, 2003, 2:34 AM
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Acrophobic is right! It's expensive here. We all struggling to make more money and climb at the same time. The best place could be Calgary where you can have more employement opportunities. Mountains are not far from there. I like Vancouver and I enjoy my free time in Squamish, Whistler, Pemberton and Chilliwack area. Great opportunities for skiing and climbing. My second favourite place is Calgary. Toronto is not good option even tough you can have very good people around you. It's very poluted and I don't like it.
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apollodorus
Mar 13, 2003, 3:11 AM
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They have good wall climbing on Baffin Island.
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northerntouch
Mar 13, 2003, 3:32 AM
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If you know what is good for you, don't move to Toronto. Very little climbing in the area (the escarment is pretty far, twice as far in Ontario traffic) and the people are pretty snotty. Vancouver and area is almost as developed as the Toronto area and has much better climbing (as you have heard squamish is supposedly awesome). Calgary is also a good choice. While the drive to the mountains is probably the same as the drive to the escarment in Toronto, there is world class climbing in the bow valley, and the economy is pretty booming there. I would strongly suggest staying away from Toronto. It is good to visit, but put your home base where the real climbing is!
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