You're lying midget.

You dream of CPR??

You know why it lasted so long?

Your pillow was already dead and no amount of rescue could save it.

So what are you saying, midget is a pillow biter?

I am one of the most honest climber you can find.

You're not a climber (you said so yourself). You're lying yet again.

why are you calling me lair ?

I am calling you a lair because on this site you routinely tell exaggerated and untrue stories about yourself and your exploits.

I am calling you a lair because on this site you routinely tell exaggerated and untrue stories about yourself and your exploits.

WOAH. Someone telling exaggerated and untrue stories about themselves and their exploits?! Say it isn't so!

What i said in here is true. I may say I am 5.6 climber but that could be after an injury and still , it does not mean i can't lead a 5.11 trad ok. you guys are too tight and need to loosen a little and do not take everything (other than I&A seriously).

what do you need to know about me that i have not told you yet ?

Well at least we know that you are just fine with lying about yourself.

Not that it matters though, being a looser who talks himself up online stroke his own ego isn't hurting anyone.

However when someone uses those lies to act like some type of expert in climbing safety, that's just plane wrong.

That's the problem midget, your lies extend into I&A. Speaking of which, wheren't you banned from I&A for not following terms of posting, then you lied about why you banned?

No, this is just plane wrong:
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I was banned cause jackatc drop a sh8t in there to start something ( as he always done it) and mod who guards the I&A could not wait to ban me so he got his reasons and did it. I also PM DDT and Phil and explain the situation on how Jake continuously used to cause trouble or to get on my case.

It appears JT512's thread about you getting banned was deleted, so I guess I'll just post this here.

Majid, the forum is specifically titled "Accident and Incident Analysis", not "Accident and Incident Reporting". You did not post any analysis whatsoever. All you did was post a link and the opening paragraph from the news story.

To be doing analysis on the story, we need more than just a media story about it.

I am sure 99% of you never done any investigation on climbing accident nor you know how to write one or follow up on one but writing accident report or any investigation reports is task and half so let me explain a few thing. When a climber falls or something happens, a primary report ( few lines) is published by some dumb unintelligent reporter and its been published to media. From there on, nothing happens other than report been published in local media and it may leak in to some web here and there so you would not know anything about the existence of the accident till open the can of worm and dig in to it .

With a powerful tool such as internet and networking, you can put the original report under microscope and pulling the additional information out. now, some of these information can be classified, they involve fatalities, insurance investigation .....etc etc etc by knowing the fact is what really maters and that is what i am trying do. Get to know the cause, discuss the problem and try to avoid or fix it before someone else dies.

without primary report, you would not know, your buddy would not know nor 95% of the climbers out there but, if you report an accident, someone may come forward(as they done 100 times in RC) and say, yes, it was me who belay Joe and this is what happened that day.

I am writing a book on climbing accidents ( not accidents in USA) , I been investigating, interviewing friends and family members and I been doing it for over 200 cases (3 years of my time) and not a single time i have heard from a family member or a friend that we do not want this to be discus cause we do not people to know what happened. Almost every one wanted to get the word out cause they know they do not want history to repeat itself.

Climbing accidents does not hurt climbing community. Taking 5th, keeping accidents secret, playing politically sensitive climbers etc etc will do more harm to climbers than anything else.

Now, if i really wrong then take a look at FAA and how they report every airplane accident.

MS

For what it is worth, I'll take even posted news as OPs in I&A. The more we talk about what can and has gone wrong the better. To a point.

we should but some of the narrow-minded people who control the power do not see it that way. if people care about climbing safety, if they care about reducing climbing injuries then there should not so much nazi control over open discussion. Now, I am not saying that anyone can drop and disrespect injured or dead people but criticizing an accident its not disrespecting .

Few months in I&A, I criticize the fuc*out of couple SAR guys in canada while they were saving a climber cause what they did and how they did it,wasn't sound right so as you can see, if something does not sound right, I will criticize it,even if its my own kind.

Yes midget but you don't know what your talking about when it comes to climbing rescue (you've said so yourself) and can't seem to comunicate very well.