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sungam
Jul 25, 2011, 7:51 PM
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So things have recently started to not run on my computer because my OS is too old.It's a pain in the ass. I have OSX Tiger.
So I decided to get Mac's latest operating system, Lion.
But in order to buy Lion, you have to already have Snow leopard, which you also have to buy.
And in order to get Snow Leopard without breaking the law, you have to have Leopard, which you also have to buy.
So I have to buy THREE FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEMS just to fucking upgrade to the newest one? Fuck that.
Mac can lick my sweaty fucking hairy nutsack, I'm downloading Linux tonight.
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j_ung
Jul 26, 2011, 1:37 AM
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sungam wrote: So things have recently started to not run on my computer because my OS is too old.It's a pain in the ass. I have OSX Tiger. So I decided to get Mac's latest operating system, Lion. But in order to buy Lion, you have to already have Snow leopard, which you also have to buy. And in order to get Snow Leopard without breaking the law, you have to have Leopard, which you also have to buy. So I have to buy THREE FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEMS just to fucking upgrade to the newest one? Fuck that. Mac can lick my sweaty fucking hairy nutsack, I'm downloading Linux tonight.
Dear moron,
Lion isn't an OS, it's an app. And you can buy Snow Leopard straight up. Do they even sell Leopard anymore? Fuck it, you'll be better off with Windows. 
Me
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iknowfear
Jul 26, 2011, 8:53 AM
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sungam wrote: So things have recently started to not run on my computer because my OS is too old.It's a pain in the ass. I have OSX Tiger. So I decided to get Mac's latest operating system, Lion. But in order to buy Lion, you have to already have Snow leopard, which you also have to buy. And in order to get Snow Leopard without breaking the law, you have to have Leopard, which you also have to buy. So I have to buy THREE FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEMS just to fucking upgrade to the newest one? Fuck that. Mac can lick my sweaty fucking hairy nutsack, I'm downloading Linux tonight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Lion
wait for august. buy system for 69$ on thumb drive. (if your computer is able to run it)
else buy used snow leopard of ebay.
cheers
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sungam
Jul 26, 2011, 10:02 AM
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Buying snow leopard without leopard is a breach of Apple's TOS. Even when you can buy Lion on a stick you can't even put it on a clean laptop, you have to have snow leopard. I checked this stuff out for like 40 minutes last night before I decided they can fuck themselves.
Edit:Typo fix. Changed "with" to "without".
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Diphthong
Jul 26, 2011, 2:41 PM
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sungam wrote: Buying snow leopard without leopard is a breach of Apple's TOS.
WHY WON'T IT READ?!?
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Diphthong
Jul 26, 2011, 2:51 PM
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I thought this thread was going to be about Maculated or Macherry.
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Jul 26, 2011, 4:20 PM
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macherry wrote: Diphthong wrote: I thought this thread was going to be about Maculated or Macherry. ddt pm'd
Thanks for quoting the offending post. I have Diphthong killfiled.
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sungam
Jul 26, 2011, 7:08 PM
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Woooo! Kubuntu!
Sukkit, Mac!
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qwert
Jul 26, 2011, 7:08 PM
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sungam wrote: Buying snow leopard without leopard is a breach of Apple's TOS.
But even if you manage to obtain lion:
Are you really sure that you actually can run it? If your mac is still on tiger, i would think that it will be to old for lion anyways. I am too lazy to google the specs, but there are a few intel- macs that arent supported anymore.
sometimes i do miss some of the nicer features of the OS, but i am happy that i dont have to bother with Kim Jong-jobs dictatorship anymore.
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qwert
Jul 26, 2011, 7:18 PM
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sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu!
good choice
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sungam
Jul 26, 2011, 8:06 PM
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qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert
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qwert
Jul 26, 2011, 8:19 PM
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sungam wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert I'm a big fan so far, and I've been exploring around. What didn't you like about it?
Then i went to OpenSuse (really easy to use), and after that developed a bug with virtualbox that i couldnt solve i went to fedora (not as hard as it used to be, in fact also quite easy, just some more work (=reading wiki pages) to get some proprietary stuff to work) (after a short flirt with freeBSD), all the while thinking wether i should leave behind the broken mess that is KDE, but every new version is so much better (until i find the spots where stuff stopped working)…
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sungam
Jul 26, 2011, 8:40 PM
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So far I haven't found any issues. I'll post back when I have a little more experience with it, though.
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Jul 26, 2011, 9:44 PM
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qwert wrote: sungam wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert I'm a big fan so far, and I've been exploring around. What didn't you like about it? I combines (did combine?) the weak points of ubuntu with the weak points of KDE and left out what make ubuntu good, leaving me with a system that was somewhat nonstandart in many aspects, with a buggy DE and a broken localization, without anything working automatically like it would in ubuntu. Then i went to OpenSuse (really easy to use), and after that developed a bug with virtualbox that i couldnt solve i went to fedora (not as hard as it used to be, in fact also quite easy, just some more work (=reading wiki pages) to get some proprietary stuff to work) (after a short flirt with freeBSD), all the while thinking wether i should leave behind the broken mess that is KDE, but every new version is so much better (until i find the spots where stuff stopped working)… qwert
why does that remind me of this
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Jul 27, 2011, 4:52 AM
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qwert wrote: sungam wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert I'm a big fan so far, and I've been exploring around. What didn't you like about it? I combines (did combine?) the weak points of ubuntu with the weak points of KDE and left out what make ubuntu good, leaving me with a system that was somewhat nonstandart in many aspects, with a buggy DE and a broken localization, without anything working automatically like it would in ubuntu. Then i went to OpenSuse (really easy to use), and after that developed a bug with virtualbox that i couldnt solve i went to fedora (not as hard as it used to be, in fact also quite easy, just some more work (=reading wiki pages) to get some proprietary stuff to work) (after a short flirt with freeBSD), all the while thinking wether i should leave behind the broken mess that is KDE, but every new version is so much better (until i find the spots where stuff stopped working)… qwert
ArchLinux, dude. ArchLinux.
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Jul 27, 2011, 5:08 AM
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sungam wrote: So things have recently started to not run on my computer because my OS is too old.It's a pain in the ass. I have OSX Tiger. So I decided to get Mac's latest operating system, Lion. But in order to buy Lion, you have to already have Snow leopard, which you also have to buy. And in order to get Snow Leopard without breaking the law, you have to have Leopard, which you also have to buy. So I have to buy THREE FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEMS just to fucking upgrade to the newest one? Fuck that. Mac can lick my sweaty fucking hairy nutsack, I'm downloading Linux tonight.
I upgraded to Lion last week--it's great. Next time, please try to keep up.
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qwert
Jul 27, 2011, 7:47 AM
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jt512 wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert I'm a big fan so far, and I've been exploring around. What didn't you like about it? I combines (did combine?) the weak points of ubuntu with the weak points of KDE and left out what make ubuntu good, leaving me with a system that was somewhat nonstandart in many aspects, with a buggy DE and a broken localization, without anything working automatically like it would in ubuntu. Then i went to OpenSuse (really easy to use), and after that developed a bug with virtualbox that i couldnt solve i went to fedora (not as hard as it used to be, in fact also quite easy, just some more work (=reading wiki pages) to get some proprietary stuff to work) (after a short flirt with freeBSD), all the while thinking wether i should leave behind the broken mess that is KDE, but every new version is so much better (until i find the spots where stuff stopped working)… qwert ArchLinux, dude. ArchLinux. Jay
Apart from the security and elitist hipster issues it just doesnt feel right. I am more leaning towards something stable (Scientific linux is supposed to be rather good), but stable doesnt really work with KDE since that always needs the latest version.
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Jul 27, 2011, 7:48 AM
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iknowfear wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: qwert wrote: sungam wrote: Woooo! Kubuntu! bad choice (unless they did improve a lot, and then a big amount and then some) good choice qwert I'm a big fan so far, and I've been exploring around. What didn't you like about it? I combines (did combine?) the weak points of ubuntu with the weak points of KDE and left out what make ubuntu good, leaving me with a system that was somewhat nonstandart in many aspects, with a buggy DE and a broken localization, without anything working automatically like it would in ubuntu. Then i went to OpenSuse (really easy to use), and after that developed a bug with virtualbox that i couldnt solve i went to fedora (not as hard as it used to be, in fact also quite easy, just some more work (=reading wiki pages) to get some proprietary stuff to work) (after a short flirt with freeBSD), all the while thinking wether i should leave behind the broken mess that is KDE, but every new version is so much better (until i find the spots where stuff stopped working)… qwert why does that remind me of this
FreeBSD is totally different! I just had to escape from the hell creatures that popped up in my basement, but there where no issues with sharks.
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sungam
Jul 27, 2011, 9:27 AM
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So far I lurv Kubuntu. I am totally in love with the dancing icons that follow your mouse while a program is loading.
I am still finding my way around the interface, but it seems good. ReKonq doesn't seem to have a spell checker yet so I'll probobly switch back to firefox, but I am tottaly sold on the 2 desktop thing. I need to get an OS X boot disc so I can boot from disc and bless Kubuntu so it starts up faster, though.
I'll sneak a peak at archlinux, Jay.
Curt - I should have kept up, but I didn't. That's the thing with Mac, if you got the money to keep up to date with everything it may well be the best system avalible, but if you don't you get left behind really fast.
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qwert
Jul 27, 2011, 9:38 AM
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sungam wrote: I need to get an OS X boot disc so I can boot from disc and bless Kubuntu so it starts up faster, though.
Are you running from a live CD, and somehow need an OSX DVD to be able to install Linux (because of bootcamp?)?
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sungam
Jul 27, 2011, 9:55 AM
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Nah, it's just a funky thing with macs. It takes an extra 10-15 seconds to boot linux unless you "bless" the partition from OS X*. I'm not using bootcamp or rEFIt or anything.
*bless --device /dev/disk0s2 --setBoot --legacy --verbose
The world may never know why.
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Jul 27, 2011, 6:16 PM
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sungam wrote: So far I lurv Kubuntu. I am totally in love with the dancing icons that follow your mouse while a program is loading. I am still finding my way around the interface, but it seems good. ReKonq doesn't seem to have a spell checker yet so I'll probobly switch back to firefox, but I am tottaly sold on the 2 desktop thing.
See, that's what's wrong with Ubuntu in a nutshell. You're not limited to two "desktops" (I assume you mean workspaces) in Linux. You can have as many as you want (I use nine). Ubuntu makes too many decisions for the user (like Windows does, but not as badly) and hides too many configurable features. They're all there, just harder to find.
Do you know about virtual terminals? Most distros configure seven by default (you can have many more, if for some reason you need them). Hold down the left <Ctl> and <Alt> keys and press one of <F1> . . . <F6>. Now you're in a virtual terminal. Follow the prompts to log in. Now you can enter commands. Try 'ls', 'ls -a' and 'ls -al' for listings of the current directory in various formats. Need to do something that doesn't require a GUI, like compile a program? You can do it here. When you're done, optionally type 'exit' to log out of the VT. Then hold down the left <Alt> key and press <F7> to put you back into virtual terminal 7, where your GUI, or more specifically, an "X server" is running. In fact, you can run multiple instances of the X server and thus have multiple GUI desktops, one in each VT, each with essentially unlimited numbers of workspaces.
In reply to: I'll sneak a peak at archlinux, Jay.
Sneak a peak, but I wouldn't recommend Arch to anyone who hasn't used another Linux distro for at least six months and who isn't familiar with using the Linux command line. It's a great distro but the learning curve will likely be too frustrating to someone new to Linux.
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sungam
Jul 27, 2011, 7:37 PM
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I found out how to make more workspaces. For now I have 4, super handy.
I forgot how to escape the VT, haha. Freaked out till I worked it out. Exit not working=panic.
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Jul 28, 2011, 1:23 AM
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sungam wrote: Buying snow leopard without leopard is a breach of Apple's TOS. Even when you can buy Lion on a stick you can't even put it on a clean laptop, you have to have snow leopard. I checked this stuff out for like 40 minutes last night before I decided they can fuck themselves. Edit:Typo fix. Changed "with" to "without".
Snow Leopard upgrade works on Tiger-equipped Intel Macs. I can back up this assertion with my own experience—Tiger to Snow Leopard, one disc.
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