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hugin


Apr 9, 2007, 10:54 PM

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Re: [eastvillage] Another beautiful climbing spot marred by "progress"
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eastvillage wrote:
The US ppopulation in 1930 was approximately 122 million people, today it is 300 million.
Compared to 77 years ago, the US has had explosive growth in infrastucture and sprawl. Freeways did not exist then.
Most of the rapid population growth today is from immigration, legal and illegal. This is coming at a very heavy price and will detroy wild places in the US and must be slowed dramatically.

I'm going to rephrase my above post. US population growth has been consistently at or below 2%/year for the last 77 years. Today, it is less than half that peak at about .9%.

Immigration, legal and illegal, accounts for 1/5 of the added people, not counting deaths. It's closer to 1/3 with deaths counted. That's not "most". Mormons probably do more to bring the average up. It's clear that you have a political agenda in this discussion. It would be more honest if you went to the soap box and started a new thread on immigration. This is not an immigration problem.

eastvillage wrote:
People who come to live in the US are big footprint people - big resource and space consumers.
The only reason the suburbs aren't in sight of Eldo is because of strict zoning.
What does eveyone think of the housing developments and mini malls marching up the hill toward Red Rocks?

People *in* the US have a large footprint. I would wager that folks raised in the US have a larger footprint than most immigrants. I said it before, but it was buried ... the problem is social and economic, not one of breeding and immigration. Economic problems have a habit of correcting themselves when the people causing the problem no longer have money to do so. Social ones (big footprint, and social desires for large suburban houses) are harder to address, especially in this format.

(This post was edited by hugin on Apr 9, 2007, 10:55 PM)



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