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hugin


Apr 10, 2007, 3:03 PM

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Re: [moose_droppings] Another beautiful climbing spot marred by "progress"
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moose_droppings wrote:

Just like to point out that if these figures are correct, than .9% of 300mil is more people each year than 2% of 122mil. So while your percentages have decreased, the amount of people each year has increased.


Anyway you look at it, population is increasing every year, irregardless of at what percent comes from those that are born here or not.

It's not arguable that, by raw numbers, population is increasing more now than before. That's how these things work. But, that's a meaningless way to discuss these things if you want to have a practical discussion, especially with doom-and-gloom comments like "ongoing, massive, population increase". I'm just trying to bring a little perspective to the issue - population, by percentage, is increasing less now than at most points in the last century. If Europe is any indication, the upward trend will turn over in the future and we'll actually start seeing even or negative population movement - as societies urbanize and liberalize, they start breeding less. We also have HUGE expanses of untouched land. Ever driven from LA to Denver? It's pretty barren for most of those 1000 miles ... 1000 miles that are FULL of a lifetime's worth of world-class climbing.

I agree that continued development is upsetting, especially when it encroaches on places that we find bring us peace, but if you want to do anything more than bitch about it, you need to have a *little* bit of perspective. It's not doom-and-gloom, and despite the shit flinging of some in this thread, trends are going in a good direction for those of us that want to see less population and less development.

(This post was edited by hugin on Apr 10, 2007, 3:04 PM)



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