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Re: [fracture] To retro or not?:
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dingus
May 22, 2007, 1:55 AM
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fracture wrote: What I am advocating here is democratic control over public climbing resources, which is de facto rule anyway, internet protestations notwithstanding.
Defacto rule? You're high. The rule is, you want to bolt something, go bolt it. The other rule is, if someone else doesn't like your bullshit, they can chop it.
In reply to: So, why not bolt all the cracks? Because some crags are frequented by a majority of climbers who do not want them bolted. Similarly, why bolt any cracks? Some crags (Potrero comes to mind) are frequented by a majority of climbers who want them bolted.
Nice sleight of hand trick. In your search for this elusive ONE RULE TO BIND THEM ALL you've overlooked the obvious... we have more than one tradition.
In reply to: Sadly, the most reliable internet proponents of rule by so-called "local ethics" (such as our DMT), are apparently so infected with the toxic FA Veto Doctrine, that they apparently require this one universal as an exception. This One Holy Universal Law Which We All Must Abide.
Actually I don't get all caught up in it. I suggest respect is the way for differing styles to coexist. You dream of a democratic utopia.
I won't hold my breath waiting for your defacto revolution to take hold haha. And when it does if will be the Secretary of the Interior who dictates democracy.
Tilll then only 2 people matter - the person who retros a route and the other person who chops it.
Pretty fucking democratic don't you think????
I'd go with respect personally. Over your utopia. Over a government wanker dictating democracy.
DMT
(This post was edited by dingus on May 22, 2007, 1:57 AM)
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