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8flood8


May 22, 2007, 6:43 AM

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Re: [petsfed] To retro or not?
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petsfed wrote:
I take it that El Capitan is off limits to bolting, or at least to far to travel for climbing? It strikes me that the other granite domes near E-rock were turned into quarries. Ironical, that.

Upon further review, I'm beginning to understand what you're saying here. However, in every case I can think of where the community can overrule the FA Veto Doctrine (as we've formalized it) without risk of the new bolt getting chopped, the standards that such a suggestion has to overcome are so high that the FVD applies anyway, if not in spirit then at least in execution.

Have there been bolt wars at E-rock or Reimers? Have areas been closed to new route development because of bolt wars in Texas? No? Then I can't really feel sorry for you. Look into the Flatirons bolting ban. The FVD exists to prevent the events that led to that.

paternalism--



of course we love facetiousness. and no it wasn't a troll, but merely another way of looking at things. As i tried to say from the start i just want an honest discussion of an issue that affects now. turn an X into an R? yes, bolt it.

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