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Re: [jt512] To retro or not?:
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fracture
Jun 1, 2007, 5:39 PM
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jt512 wrote: fracture wrote: jt512 wrote: Utter nonsense. Entertainment is passive. Wtf? Since when? (My dictionaries say nothing of the sort.) Of course sport climbing is entertainment. It's a sport! I'm using a definition along the lines of this one from Am. Her.: "Something that amuses, pleases, or diverts, especially a performance or show."
Yes. Works for me. (Where's "passive"?)
(The definition I found is slightly more accurate, in my opinion, and lists "sport" as a synonym, but I don't find yours particularly wrong.)
In reply to: I would never refer to climbing as "entertainment."
Wow.
Well, for one thing, I don't know whether to actually believe you. (People are potentially fallible if asked to describe their own idiolect.)
But more interestingly, if you really don't think sport climbing is entertainment (as any sport is), I think we probably have very different reasons for doing what we do. (Which would surprise me, based on previous discussions.)
(Though I'll note again, in order to avoid misunderstanding, that I don't think that the reasons people climb should be relevant in the context of determining how to optimally manage public land.)
In reply to: In fact, I am using the word in the same sense that Joseph is using it sarcastically: something that's safe, easy, passive. He would never call "his kind" of climbing "entertainment," unless he is willing to call it "unsafe entertainment," which I doubt he is willing to do.
Joseph's quips about "entertainment" are completely devoid of content, from where I'm sitting.
And regarding safety: many (most?) forms of entertainment are not 100% safe. Many people gamble for entertainment, for example. Or jump out of airplanes. Or eat peyote. Or ride a unicycle at high speed. Or hangdog on cams.
(This post was edited by fracture on Jun 1, 2007, 5:43 PM)
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