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fracture


Jul 18, 2007, 8:37 PM

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Re: [j_ung] Fake Bolts at NRG
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j_ung wrote:
Nobody -- literally NOBODY -- knows the full story.

Good point.

Perhaps if other people with information will also post it, the full story could eventually be told.

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And again, it is beside the point of my post, which is to encourage constructive dialog rather than bonehead showboating.

Very commendable, and thank you for limiting what you state as a fact to what you know to be a fact---very few people do this on these topics. I also would like to see some constructive dialog (that was also the point of my post), instead of a bunch of uninformed opinions from people "sitting in California".

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However, the route in question is also the single most prominent moderate route in the entire region. It sits within 50 meters of parking in a climbing area frequented by climbers and tourists alike. Rangers walk under it multiple times per day. Almost everybody who enters the gorge proper passes within sight of it.

Thanks. (Many other readers of this thread probably also will not know this.)

Edit (since I think I missed some on first reading of your post): I think curator's comments about whether the bolts were reachable very much are not beside the point. I (probably along with others) am pretty curious about what actually happened. The more data there is about this situation, whether it is a first-hand report, second-hand report, or a wild unsourced rumor, the more likely a reader who understands how to look at this critically will be able to piece together a coherent idea of what happened. In the absence of more data, there is a limit to what people can learn from this, and I think that was also part of the point of your initial post.


(This post was edited by fracture on Jul 18, 2007, 9:16 PM)



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