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valeberga
Oct 1, 2007, 6:12 AM
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Registered: Feb 2, 2003
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curator wrote: I'll ask again....Do any of the "remove the cleaner biner" ethics police climb 5.12? I wouldn't have to reveal my arrogant, elitist-prick attitude if people would just stop stealing fixed gear.
Alright then, I'll ask again too:
How do you know the gear wasn't removed by an equal or better climber (than OP) because it was deemed inappropriate or in the way?
It's not stealing any more than it's abandonment.
In case you weren't paying attention, the rationale given for leaving gear was that it made cleaning easier. Not because it was 5.12. Your little "this is about grades" ruse is pathetic. Climbing 5.13 is not an excuse for doing whatever you feel like, and nor is it an excuse for you to throw a bratty temper tantrum about it when people object.
Whether or not it is okay to fix gear has nothing to do with the grade of the climb. It has to do with whether the people it affects find it acceptable. For the most part there doesn't seem to be a problem with fixed gear, because the only people that it affects significantly are the people who appreciate it. When that's not true, you have a problem, and that problem is shared by both sides. If you cry thief, they will cry litterer. You should try something more constructive.
Actually to be honest, rjtrials sounds like he's being pretty nice about it, so I hate to say it curator, but you're not helping him. Neither are you jt with your insinuation of violence.
Can you follow the route to clean it? Or how about a note/contact info twist-tied to the draw itself?
(This post was edited by valeberga on Oct 1, 2007, 6:47 AM)
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