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stymingersfink


Aug 29, 2008, 6:36 AM

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Re: [RangerJ] hauling the pig with inverted grigri??
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RangerJ wrote:
stymingersfink wrote:
or you need a fairly simple (but no where near as simple as a straight haul) pulley system which is going to need to be reset after each "stroke".

Agreed, it's more complicated, but at first I had thought that working smarter would have meant not working harder. And (what I had thought) the brilliance of inverting the Grigri meant I wouldn't have to mind any prussiks, or reset anything after each stroke (both physical and cerebral). In fact, all I have to do is pull, reach down the line, repeat - the Grigri locks automatically and does all the reseting for me.

Or, when I get tired of pulling, I could even take my second ascender, invert it and attach it to the haul line at the end of the z-pulley, tether it to my harness, and begin doing squats until the pig arrives at the station.

OR... maybe I should just shut the heck up and try a bunch of these while I'm out there. I suppose it all comes down to the fact that I really don't know how much weight it takes to make space hauling uncomfortable (correction, more uncomfortable) to the point where you want to try a more complicated system.

Oh, and thx for the suggestion about tethering the first inverted ascender to the anchor. I did, actually, lose it the first time while practicing....

*cough* noob *cough* *cough*
Well, juggin rope is juggin' rope. Whether you put "1/3" the effort into it to make a 3:1 haul or not, you're still juggin'.

As far as the "load limit" on space hauling goes, it's one of those things that only gets easier the higher you go. IIRC, I'll attach one ascender (with safety biner clipped) from a daisy to the light side of the haul. the other inverted ascender from daisy to the heavy side(<--that's the one I meant).

my bodyweight counters the pigs, but not quite, so by hoisting up on the heavy side i can effect their upward movement. one advantage to this from where I sit is I can easily swap which arm gets the workout on the ride down (truth is, it usually takes both simultaneously pulling to get the bags to move up, thereby sending me down)


all in all, inverting and hauling through a grigri is working harder, not smarter. there are quite a few techniques you'll have to discard before that one comes to the top of the list.

It sounds like you've come to realize this, but really there's no substitute for experience.Wink


(This post was edited by stymingersfink on Aug 29, 2008, 6:38 AM)



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