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Jun 19, 2009, 1:35 PM

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Re: [adatesman] More Alien Test Results (Lots of pics, very bandwidth intensive)
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adatesman wrote:
cracklover wrote:
Perhaps if Aric scans in the lobes, we can get a more precise measurement of axle hole to work with. Then we could see if that gets rid of enough slop in the numbers to improve the statistical correlation.

Ok Cracklover, have at it. The scans of all the lobes are available here: Link

A couple notes on the scans:
1. The side scanned is the side with less apparent deformation, and in cases where the axle is bent the deformation on the other side could be significant.
2. The reason for this that I needed to clean the edge up with a dremel so that it would sit on the hardness tester properly.
3. The numbers in the pics correspond to the numbers in the hardness tests (the lobes are labeled on the other side).
4. Sample 22 has no numbers as I couldn't do a hardness test on it.
5. Buckled and cracked lobes are notated.
6. Some of the slightly bent axles may not be apparent as the bend wasn't enough to catch on the plate of the scanner and rotated all the way downward.

Just a quick followup on this.

I've been processing the images, but it takes a while, and I'm only partway done. Some interesting facts, though:

1 -The photos taken by Aric straight on and then run through the middle-analyzer software gave results that are qualitatively very similar to what I see on the scanner image. So, for example if his original image showed a theoretical center point that's 3mm up and right of the true axle, invariably that's what I see in my analysis of the images taken from the scanner.

However...

2 - There are very small changes. And those can, depending on the specific relationship between the theoretical center and the true axle center, equal quite significant changes in effective cam angle.

I'll probably post my results later today.

GO


(This post was edited by cracklover on Jun 19, 2009, 8:58 PM)



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