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patto


Aug 25, 2009, 2:05 AM

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Re: [petsfed] Worst modern belay devices
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petsfed wrote:
Lemme make sure I understand your argument here:

By increasing the mass, we decrease the maximum temperature achieved.

WHICH IS PRECISELY WHAT I SAID IF YOU'D BOTHERED TO READ IT.

I said that we can't simply compare a pyramid with fins to a pyramid without fins since a pyramid that simply lacks fins will have lower mass.

And again, the issue is not of overall heat in the system, it is heat that remains in the device.

And ANYBODY who says that a rappel device shouldn't heat up that much has NEVER done a 60m rappel on dual 10.5mm ropes, much less a fast rappel.

Should I write out the energy in/energy out equations so you can see why a fast rappel would heat up the device faster than a slow rappel? Or can you work that out yourself?

Calm down and take one of your happy pills petsfed.

You said "We want to know if the increased rate of cooling due to the added surface area of the fins is sufficiently large to offset the resistance to cooling caused by the additional mass."

This is completely false thinking. 'Resistance to cooling cause by additional mass' is not an issue.

Either way the rest of my calculations weren't directed towards you. I did it as an exercise out of interest.

climbdork wrote:
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80kg * 9.8m/s/s * 50m = 39200J

9.8m/s^2 is free fall, not a "fast rappel."
I'm calculating the potential energy dude. U=mgh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_energy


(This post was edited by patto on Aug 25, 2009, 2:08 AM)



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