jacques wrote:
Learner wrote:
It is fine if you disagree with me, but please offer an alternative. Also keep in mind that I am referring to the status of a climber's
performance level, similar to how you may categorize climbers in a competition. In other words, if you do offer a valid alternative, it must be quantifiable; you will likely also have to assign grades to your categories. (Good luck making everyone happy.).
Well, the system I described is use in many guide book. In climbing in the adirondacks, they call it easy, moderate, difficult and extreme but it is the same as in Ed webster books: beginer to expert. In France and canada, they use the same as webster. Patrick edlinger, in the book grimper, describe it a little more. So, if they use it in guide books all over USA, it must have some utility.
As Rangerrob said, Fred Beckey is not a beginer. I am sure that he know the technique of intermediate, advance and probably expert climbing.
I know many climber who don't know what is a layback and how to decide if a layback is a 5.8 or 5.9. for me technique is the way that the people use to decide if a climber is a beginer or an expert.
